Floor Stand
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This YouTube video: https://youtu.be/a_hBfIENVX8?t=99 ... at 1:39 shows (very briefly) a pair of floor stands / holders for two Sylphyo instruments (Pedro's, I'm guessing).
Would anyone have any info on these or any other style of stand / holder for the Sylphyo?
My regular flute stands don't work because of the closed bell, and I have not good place to put the instrument down in a confined space that would be safe ...
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Here's the best capture I could get from the video:
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I have also been hunting for a while for a floor stand suitable for the Syplhyo. Not yet found one but suprised Adoyo have not teamed up with another maker to offer one.
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I've been working on developing a 3D-printed "Cradle" to hold the Sylphyo level (like on a table - without rolling) or (optionally) at a shallow inclined angle. Should be ready in a week or so, and I'll post the model on Thingiverse for general use ...
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It looks like he just used some sort of screw-down flange base for a fence post or pole attached to a piece of wood...it doesn't look very stable, I bet we can do better :)
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I just posted a "Cradle" on Thingiverse: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4801206 ... be sure to add felt pads (or some other protection) on the contact points with the Sylphyo:
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I've developed a 3D-printed vertical stand for the Sylphyo. This was spurred by the suggestion (previously unknown to me) that the Sylphyo should be stored vertically (see https://community.aodyo.com/topic/663/a-gentle-breeze/6) to aid drying / drainage.
My design uses a 40 x 40 x 10 mm USB-powered fan to push (or pull) air through the instrument (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0836QY8JC).
There is a "plumbing system" below the base that routes airflow from the fan on the side of the stand to the bell of the Sylphyo.
The stand keeps the Sylphyo at 5 degrees from vertical. I use self-stick 1/8" thick neoprene (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008BFTOHQ) as cushions. The brace at the top is narrow enough (with the neoprene padding) to insert the Sylphyo turned sideways. Once you rotate the Sylphyo so that the thumb pads face forward, the width of the body keeps the Sylphyo from falling out. The floor platform is covered with Neoprene as well, which forms a reasonably tight air seal for the fan to gently move air through the instrument.
I have added three holes for 5M size bolts so that the stand can be fixed to a larger plate for stability. I will likely use wing-nuts for ease of assembly.
I am hoping that this stand will avoid any potential moisture issues. My experience has been that, after a lot of playing, some of the Sylphyo finger pads misbehave for a short while (30-60 seconds) when I start it up the next day. The pads that misbehave are the ones on the bottom side of the instrument when I store it horizontally. I am hoping that vertical storage will avoid these type of issues.
I would be happy to post this model as an STL file under an Open Source license (CC-BY) if anyone is interested ...
-- Clint Goss
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I am not convinced of the fan. Doesn't it dry out the watery component of the liquid but leave the ingrediences that promote the growth of mushrooms? I can imagine that the remaining dry germs are happy when they get new colleagues and water during the next playing time and the population may grow quickly. Maybe it is better to let the liquid drip off, probably soaking it up with some removable kitchen-pad-like material and for longer breaks just clean the tube with a usual cleaning cloth.I like your idea of the 90° turn to lock the Sylphyo in place. With the right dimensions of the "clamp" you may not even need the 5° backwards tilt.
Actually you inspire me to buy a 3D printer too :-)
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@peter-ostry My thinking is that I want to create as dry an atmosphere inside the airway to counteract any possible humidity that might have accumulated outside the airway (i.e. in the electronics area).
I do swab the airway with three oboe cloths after I play. I think (and it appears on inspection) that, after I swab, there is no significant visible moisture. In any case, if there are tiny droplets of liquid remaining, it does not appear that they will "drip off" - they are tiny, and there is a significant bevel at the foot end of the airway that would catch (and retain) any tiny water droplets.
Yes, I do not think the 5° tilt is needed! However, it has an appealing feel and does maybe add a bit of safety.
One concern I have is that there is a noticeable metallic, electronics aroma from the mouth of the Sylphyo. It seems to vary in strength based on how much I play it. Have others experienced this??
Another concern is that the internal airway of my Sylphyo does not appear to be "sealed". If I block the bell port completely and breath gently through the mouthpiece, air freely escapes ... to ?someplace?. It is not escaping from around the mouthpiece, so it must be going someplace in the body of the instrument.
In any case, this is not a major issue ... yet. I am taking these steps to avoid a potential issue down the line.
-- Clint Goss
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@clint This is great! Are you able to sell me one?
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@paul-flute said in Floor Stand:
Are you able to sell me one?
We're not really set up for production of 3D-Printed products ... however ...
There are a number of on-line services that are. I have not used these services, but others on this forum have. @badblocks reported that (s)he used FacFox (https://facfox.com/) successfully to print the Bell Port Plugs (see post https://community.aodyo.com/topic/544/blocking-the-bell-port/48).
If you go this route (or if anyone wants the design file for this floor stand), I can post it on Thingiverse ... just reply to this message and put in the request here ...
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@clint Yes please... I am in Australia, and will get a quote... thanks
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@paul-flute I just posted the design at https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4899624
Any issues or questions, just shout!
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@clint Thank you!
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@clint said in Floor Stand:
Another concern is that the internal airway of my Sylphyo does not appear to be "sealed". If I block the bell port completely and breathe gently through the mouthpiece, air freely escapes ... to ?someplace?. It is not escaping from around the mouthpiece, so it must be going someplace in the body of the instrument.
I found the answer to this one: I was actually doing the test with the mouthpiece removed - I was breathing into the blue collar. In this setup, the air does escape (from under the blue collar?).
When I install the mouthpiece and close the bell port with my finger, all is tightly sealed - only a miniscule amount of air seems to escape ... barely noticable.
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