@wwoodard8
Thank you for the information.

@DomTil said in Accorder le sylphyo:

J'ai peut-être raté quelque chose... mais il n'y aurait de possibilité d'accorder le Sylphyo ?

No, at the moment the Sylphyo does not support tuning. Neither the base frequency nor microtuning.

If you want to achieve microtuning with playing technique via MIDI, there are a few possibilities. But you probably have to process the MIDI stream.

They live. A new Update. Is it worth? we will see.

As Clint wrote.
There is no Sylphyo or Link based solution.

On a software route you can do whatever you want, on the hardware route you are tied to relatively expensive small devices. The usual boxes are Midi Solutions or the BomeBox.

I myself went with the BomeBox and meanwhile have all my controllers and two synths controlled by this system. Bome software and hardware is not cheap, but very good.

Here in the forum we have already discussed blocking the transmission of program changes and an option to prevent this has been proposed. At least I understood that the programmer recognised the problem. But with Aodyo's current devotion to Sylphyo, I wouldn't wait for a solution from this side.

Hello,

I only made very obvious comments. I play two different Sylphyos on most days. The shortcomings of not having expected key functionality is always disappointing. The quality and immediacy of most the sounds has the opposite effect. My frustration is the comparison between what should be vs what is available. For example, the decision to remove the most usable Phi sound was removed (DudukPhi) during software updates was very disappointing, as was the decision to leave AltoSaxPhi and FlutePhi. It seemed that production decisions were being made that were either insensitive to modern musicality, or from a hard financial course that could not improve on the obvious shortcomings. Then I saw the Omega and realized that any keyboard player could immediately relate and connect with performing with one. This is what the Sylphyos are missing. It is the odd dog owner versus the main stream dog owner metaphor. If you choose to own an unpopular dog breed, yes the dog can love you, play fetch, hang out, etc. But you will miss out on all the specialty gear available for the Labs, Shepherds, Poodles, etc. Hats, T-shirts, Bumper Stickers, Buttons, etc. An instrument is more than the sounds it makes. The missing (pinky and Bis) keys on the Sylphyos force it to the niche end of wind synths. No, I have never proposed moving hardware keys (my Lyricon I and Aerophone Pro both have those), just distinct places to place fingers that any band member can relate to. In fact, I love the EWI-like silence of the Sylphyo key layout. It works particularly well at church and at night beside a sleeping baby (it needs more available LH keys (like Bis) and notes RH at the bottom end though, for example, not ending at at least low Bb is a truly surprising and restrictive choice). This is not new or unusual thinking. We aren't talking about practicing Sylphyo for the sake of improving Sylphyo performance, but rather pulling Sylphyo toward the center to increase the user base and bring it out of the niche market into the mainstream. The Omega design shows that someone at Aodyo gets that, or else it could have been released with a chicklet keyboard with great sounds and advertising would notify potential buyers, hey, just practice and hope for the best. Sorry if you intended to jam out on Spain or Donna Lee, but you need a real keyboard for that. Imagine if the Omega had only a single octave of keys available. This would be a non-starter. However, considering that keyboard players can simply Midi connect to an 88-key controller, their situation is less critical. Controlling a Sylphyo from another device is far more complicated due to the reliance on Sylphyo motion to alter the responses of patches. If I could reliably control a Sylphyo externally, with the same unique motion-sensitive responses I would.

Ask and ye shall receive. Eventually.

https://aodyo.com/product/softcase-sylphyo-link/

@wwoodard8 thanks! I just picked up a pack of these

Hello I can´t speak French, but I think you said that it would be nice to have a similar Software for the Sylphyo. I agree. But when you imagine that the lust update (often asked for) is more than two years ago, I have no hope that this will happen. Greetings Friedus

After a little more investigation: High D is played by lifting the left thumb entirely. When I do that, it plays D in whatever octave was associated with the most recent note.

That means that exactly the same fingering can produce any of several different notes, depending on what I was doing before that.

@Gromit Thanks for the news ! Aodyo really know how to communicate...

@Laurent_AODYO Was there a solution to KDJ3992's problem, other than maybe having to return it?

I would like to try this update, on Windows, but frankly, I'm too scared to do it without more information from Aodyo. If there's a way for us to recover our anyma phi when this happens then good, but please explain it to us.

I've already had to return an anyma phi, due to a hardware problem, and that took a couple of months. I'm not complaining, but that's not something I'd want to go through again, and mine is presumably out of warranty by now anyway.

I appreciate you're all busy with your new product development, but as has been said elsewhere, the mystery around this would put me off buying another Aodyo product in case something similar happened with that, and you were all too busy to talk to us about it.

For me, this is a problem, and it's a big one.

No sequencer realtime from Anyma :-)

https://soundcloud.com/user-819966312-266044932/goblins-ritual

Goblins.anymaphi-patch

@Peter-Ostry

sorry to see you could not comprehend.

frank

@Peter-Ostry et @Friedus, I cannot deny that you are both right.
I cannot imagine that no one from Aodyo reads these posts. So, Aodyo, can we have general health information of the start up?

@Gromit thank you.

@NS-D
I suggest you start with the fingering you are most familiar with, in this case saxophone. If you need it differently, e.g. for fast or comfortable #/b changes, you can try other fingerings or settings.

Except for simple flutes, no fingering matches the original instrument exactly anyway, because the Sylphyo has no additional flaps.

welcome!!

i came from the wx es as wel ; via akai , but hate the bite.

ecept for 26 i do not use internal sounds, use a Hydra and a anyma phi

frank

it is a shame people do not all speak just dutch

--
dutch deutsch, diets means ; their mother tongue

@ark

i have seven octaves
play the highest octave, release thumb , add an octave at the top

same at the bottom
play the lowest octave , release thumb, and it goes down one octave

there are quite some alternate fingerings
take care if one changes , one has to execise a lot to master them.

i do not combine different wind controllers. just the sylphio

need to sell the other ones ...

frank

This is just an undocumented behavior we apply to the soundset list.
Each time you reach the top of the list you get back to the first one.

@Clint
Thank you for your reply.
Unfortunately google translate doesn't always do the job, but for me "enriching" meant adding a preset or two.
Have a good day

@ark said in Why can’t Note-off Delay be Zero?:

should be treated as a bug

Thanks @ark! I know understand the legato protocol better ... but I'd really hate to add a physical box to my rig and introduce latency just for this bug ...

Not sure if a bug fix at that low level is a possibility these day ... been quite a while since the last official firmware update ...

Hi @drfritzon
I didn't fix it myself. I didn't have the courage to open the anima phi.

I sent it to the guys at Adiyo who sent it back to me fixed. Unfortunately, they didn't describe exactly what the problem was.

I haven't had this problem since. I just got a whistling sound that disappeared again. Otherwise I am satisfied.
Anyma Phi SE from kickstarter campaign should come to me, so I'm looking forward to it.

@Peter-Ostry Sound great!

@mbang If it happens again, try opening up the synth and look for any PCB plates that may have become loose and push them (gently) back down again.
I had the exact same issue as you and this just fixed my instrument not ten minutes ago.

Hello Teknico

Interesting feedback. Thank you.

One thing to keep in mind is that the Anyma Phi being monophonic connecting MPE controllers to play it is not necessary the first use case.

The USB MIDI Host is meant to allow the connexion of MIDI Class compliant device but it seems that this "standard" is still subject to various interpretation among MIDI controller manufacturer.

What we tested on our side among MPE device though are 2 of the one you listed:

ROLI Seaboard Rise and Seaboard Block are working with the Anyma Phi Haken Continuumini was also tested but with the result you described with this "not enough power" message on the Continuumini although the power provided should be enough. We made a few attempts to check this was a USB software protocol trick (by rising the available power message) but with no success so far. We do not have any Linnstrument in our workshop yet so we couldn't make any test on this one. We weren't aware of the various speed available on this one. (This could make it a valuable test unit for our tests with the Omega). USB Hub is not really something we expect to work as the device is intended to manage one controller device.

One thing to keep in mind is that the main target of this USB MIDI Host port is to allow the use of the Anyma Phi with a controller which does not feature any DIN connector, so the expected MIDI speed is currently the standard MIDI speed.

The Anyma Omega will be done using a new generation board so there will be much more ressources available to manage a higher speed MIDI (and the merge and routing of MIDI coming from the various MIDI port: USB device, USB Host, DIN MIDI In ... and the "internal" command coming from the keyboard and ribbons, the CV/Gate signal etc.).
This is part of the necessary spec for the MPE compatibility of the Omega.
Once this would be done, we could then check what could be transferred back from the Omega to the Phi.

@wwoodard8 I am a flute player. The breath support is far easier on the Sylphyo. You can set the breath control to how you like it. Unless you have serious health/lung problems, I do not see any problems with breath support, it is minimal on the Sylphyo, and no special exercises are needed.... Do you own one or are you thinking of buying one? I recommend the breath adjustment kit, which gives you three options of plug sizes for the bottom end of the instrument.
I use the middle size one....cost 20 Euros... or you can make your own improvised plug... thanks

I have to buy everything.
I want this garage!

@ahiotis Hi

The connection which takes the power from the Host, the computer, also transfers the data, So id you connect from the small usb connector to the Mac, your conection will work, and midi data will be transferred,

I Think Sylbench is only meant to check your setting of the CC in the Sylphio, least how i Use it.

The host connector is intended to connect a USB device, like a keyboard. Never used that.

Regards

Frank

sorry i did not see your question before

R1 is closer to an EWI than to the Sylphyo.
Sylphyo has an unique way to manage air flow that I really appreciate..
And it's why I'm selling my aerophone ae30 (one of the reasons..).

@Clint Hi

I have been to busy

will try both

I play live only, but Iam not aware o cantabile, and i do not use computers life. But I think Sylpio can avoid sending CC 2,
delaying note off sounded good to me. thanking next note on would kill the note begor the auto note off would occur. will check.

and report here :

Thanks for the message

Regards

Frank

I really like the samson graphite 49. I use it currently with a modal synth, but Im curious how it would work with phi, I suspect very well because for the value it has pressure aftertouch, 2 banks of 8 sliders and one for volume, 16 function buttons, and two banks of 8 knobs, along with 4 percussion pads you maybe could route the piezo to [?].

Odd that Ive had my phi some months and havent tried using my graphite for it yet. Reason being id have to re-assign some of my midi cc most likely, and I kind of am 'used' to what I have it set up with.

Korg's nanokey studio however, I do also have, though its a bit small and only has velocity sensitivity and no aftertouch, it has 8 knobs, 8 pads an arpeggiator and an xy pad also. I think what I will try soon is connecting with this one.

I believe Aodyo made a youtube video featuring the phi, and the nanokey studio, although it was not too in depth it did show functionality of the knobs with some of the sound manipulations in the one shown.

Besides the graphite 49 I also have a beatstep pro, that actually could be a fun idea also.

@Paul-Flute
I am in the same case as you and your message is good!
And I find the video funny.

@Peter-Ostry It looks like Imoxplus have already designed an adapter for the Sylphyo, for a later version of the Photon prototype. Version 2 (or maybe 3 or later?).
Pedro Eustache shows the Photon v2 on his Sylphyo in the YouTube video, linked below.
Youtube Video – [16:41..]

@blipson FWIW, I have a Kenton MIDI USB Host Mk II, which lets me control the Aerophone AE-10 from a MIDI keyboard - not something I've wanted to do, but I tried it a while ago and that worked. I used a Yamaha CBX-K1, which has DIN MIDI Out and no USB.

It appears that these issues I am having are related to moisture infiltrating the electronics portion of the instrument. These are (I believe) due to several issues:

I have been storing the Sylphyo horizontally overnight. Not good. I am on the road and horizontal is easier for me, but I think bad for the Sylphyo. There is a recommendation by Aodyo for vertical storage (not in the general documentation, but mention by Maxence here: https://community.aodyo.com/topic/663/a-gentle-breeze/6)

There may be a moisture path because the active mouthpiece port on my Sylphyo is not completely sealed. See https://community.aodyo.com/topic/2158/under-the-blue-ring

I have fixed the first problem and the behavior is improving.

It really looks like a hack.
I get through the recovery process and temporary put the site offline to let us find and clean the infected files on the website.

@Clint Since it is very boring to read all that spam messages and to block various spammers I will not visit Aodyo Community any longer.

@Peter-Ostry Dang, I did something wrong, I have to test it again. Thanks for your answer.

It is true, Clint, that when we suggest something in development, I do not measure the amount of work that this represents for for example Aodyo.
By cons I measure very well the work that the creation of Anyma Phy or Omega represents. And I deduce that Aodyo now privileges the creation of Synthe rather than the development of Sylphyo.
I reopen the debate but what interests me is that the Sylphyo becomes better rather than buying another synth ...

@wwoodard8 said in Double note:

I'll try the velocity as 1. (BTW, why 1?

We would like to set 0 but this gets interpreted as note-off.
Velocity 1 is the least evil.

@wwoodard8 said in Double note:

My assumption is that synths built especially for wind synths will just totally ignore velocity

Well, the synth needs the start of the note and that comes with velocity greater than zero. And it needs the end of the note. However, synths made for windcontrollers should not make sound with velocity 1 while most other synths do. Actually a dedicated wind synth should not sound without the "sound event" it is prepared for (i.e. CC2). But since we seldom know what a synth exactly does internally, we set the velocity as low as possible.

Working with CC2 should be the default setting for a dedicated wind synth, but this can usually be changed to another CC number or Channel Pressure, just to be usable with different input devices and settings.

@ForeverTangent said in Meet Anyma Omega!:

@doul

I am thinking about backing the Anyma Omega on Kickstarter, but I am curious about the Additive Oscillator module.

Can you tell me more about the general design of the Additive Oscillator. Specifically:

How many partials does one oscillator support?

Does it allow ADSR over each partial?

Can each partial be tuned in terms of ratio/frequency/phase?

Can a waveform (sample) be resynthesized by the oscillator?

There are not many synths that have a really robust Additive Synthesis support, and I am trying to learn more about Aodyo's approach to the their take before I commit to supporting the project.

Thanks.

Stan

Hello Stan

This is definetly not the purpose of the Anyma Omega to become an additive synthesizer. The additive OSC are simple one with one partial with detune and bandwidth setting. Other like Organ Osc can mimic simple additive synthesis as do organs. The purpose of such OSc in the Anyma context is more to have various tone source to feed the resonators.

No resynthesis on board.

I use cheap contact mics from Korg, the clip mics used for tuners and it works great.

@Clint Haha!

@Paul-Flute
I don't expect them to put in a mechanical button, even if we would prefer that. But what you describe can be solved with software. For example, tap twice or hold your finger on it longer. They would have to discuss that with the players who are affected. I myself have never accidentally touched the button.