According to technical specifications in the website and "Rear Panel" description in the manual, the outputs are "mono jacks".

This usually means type TS = Tip/Sleeve = not balanced.

@Takacsmatto said in Trumpet voice problem:

So something is not ok with the trumpet sound.

The conclusion seems right to me. It could be a software failure in the Link.

What about re-installing the firmware on Sylphyo and Link? The updates usually came with new instruments, so I suspect that the code for each instrument is included in the firmware. Maybe a fresh install will fix the trumpet.

It would be nice if someone from Aodyo could comment on this here.

It sounds to me as if some other controller is sending something to the Sylphyo Link. But why on the first note? Or, on an analog level, a compressor sending into a reverb and not kicking in fast enough, or a residual reverb or an error in an effects unit.

I'm fishing in the dark here. Can you describe your setup?

Just an idea:
What if you store the Sylphyo upside down? If something trickles in somewhere, maybe it can also trickle out ...

(You could also leave something absorbent in the instrument while it is at rest. But I'm not sure if that won't make things worse).

@join said in A Modern Sylphyo Keyboard is Required - The Omega Has All The Keys:

About the Duduk sound, it wasn't meant to be released because it has a few bugs (squeaks) and it still has them, but we could put it back as it is in an upcoming release.

Yes please put it back. We can play with partially broken sounds but cannot play without the sound :-)

@join said in Loom: overlays?:

@Peter-Ostry When you say "the musically relevant features should be refined precisely for this purpose", anything specific comes to mind?

Since I do not know the Loom, I can only say what comes to my mind when I see this wooden ribbon:

• Relative and absolute pitch bend mode (Roli Seaboard strips and Y-axis are only relative).

• Behavior at direction-changes (sometimes I hear annoying soundglitches in ContinuuMini demonstrations).

• Configuration of the Y-axis for Aftertouch, Pitch bend and CC (I can imagine that this is already implemented).

• Gliding speed dynamics for bowed instruments (missed in the Touché).

Can’t say much more, would need to play the Loom.

In general, I meant that the inventive and programming capacity should largely go into sophisticated musical playability. The gimmicks with fader groups, strumming etc. seem out of place to me, any mobile phone can do that better.

@join said in flute like Vibrato including pitch:

@Peter-Ostry "Setting several parameters after each sound change is unacceptable. That's why I hardly ever play the internal sounds, but mostly software instruments."
Do you mean that the internal sounds don't remember slider positions?

No, I meant that more generally. If someone wants or needs different Sylphyo settings for different internal sounds, they won't be happy without preset management. Nobody wants to go to the menu hierarchy after a sound change and copy the respective settings from a piece of paper.

At least that's the case for me, I only use a few internal sounds that I like with my basic settings. I do everything else with external synths where I can save presets.

But I don't know if I'm a typical user. For me, the Sylphyo is more of a specialised controller than an instrument on its own.

@dainiak said in Loom: overlays?:

How about <0.7mm rigid plastic film?

You can't play well on plastic film and as far as I understand the Loom is mainly intended as an instrument. I see no reason for overlays. Everything you need to play can be marked above and below the playing surface and how to play certain synths has to be learnt with those synths anyway. If you only play one or two synths, you can add your own markings.

The wooden surface is a good choice for an instrument. The fingers have a pleasant friction with dry and moist skin and if you want it smoother for certain actions, use the top of your fingernails. I use the ExpressiveE Touché this way and it works pretty well.

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I see the Loom as a cheaper version of the ContinuuMini, without the synth, which is ok. Unfortunately the Z direction is missing. The software control functions are nice and a logical idea, but in my opinion it's counterproductive to focus on them. I realise that the Loom should match the Aodyo Omega, but an MPE instrument controller without a Z-axis, but with prepared virtual faders on a narrow wooden board would be too much diversification for me. I think the Loom should be positioned as a particularly playable and affordable instrument and the musically relevant features should be refined precisely for this purpose. Otherwise it won't find a place between the Linnstrument, Roli, Sensel Morph, Osmose and all the other competitors all of which serve a niche market. The only obvious advantage would be the price.

I'm not familiar with the Eagan Matrix, but the Sylphyo is a strictly monophonic controller which sends only note on/off per note. You may send aftertouch or CCs with breath, but honestly, MPE makes not much sense here. I know MPE from Roli Seaboard and Eigenharp. The Sylphyo does not send such information per note.

If you mean telling the Sylphyo's motion sensors to send on different channels, you can use MIDI software. For example Bome MIDI Translator Pro, possibly with a BomeBox for pure hardware operation on stage. For more complex controls including curves, dynamic mapping, MPE conversion etc. you would probably end up with the Max software from Cycling '74. As far as I know, the Haken editor is also programmed in Max.

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If you mean something else, perhaps a comment from the website of the Haken Coninuumini will help:

"Can you use another MPE controller to play the ContinuuMini's internal sound engine?"

"All the MPE controllers I know of use the "MPE Strike" (which is the exact same thing as "Midi Key Velocity") to represent the whole of the attack trajectory of a note. Most EaganMatrix presets are designed assuming much more information about the attack trajectory (not just one 7 bit number), so while the presets will play, they won't sound the same as they would with a ContinuuMini.

In Edmund Eagan’s ContinuuMini introduction video, he uses the xKey in one part of the video -- the xKey is not itself an MPE controller, but MPE specifies that channel 1 can have "traditional Midi" polyphonic notes on it. In the example, the ContinuuMini is set up to expect MPE in, so this works since polyphonic-Midi-on-channel-1 is subsumed in the MPE standard."

But you said, that the pitch reaction is too slow, didn’t you? However, what you are complaining about now is a different problem, actually a bunch of technical issues.

If you want to dive deeper, you may want to look at the threads in this forum linked below. They deal with latency of breath events but for most statements and findings you can exchange "Breath" with "Pitchbend". They are comparable because both are events triggered by human action and sent down their electronical path through various processors, beginning with the internal Sylphyo settings.

Latency Testing (Nov 2021)
How Breath Rate affects Latency (Nov 2021)
Direct vs Link Latency (Jan 2022)
Latency of On-board Sounds (May 2022)

This can help you to find out what you can expect from the Sylphyo, which improvements can be made through settings and sound setup and also what you have no control over because it is system-related.

One thread ends with a comment by Rudy Verpaele (imoxplus, Respiro). He talks about note change, but we learn that reaction time is not just milliseconds. Technical and musical aspects play a fundamental role.