@Gromit Great hint! Got it. Thanks again!
I thought about the mini USB … but couldn't imagine because of the standard USB plug. So all sylphyo up-to-date. Great controller for Sequential analog synths. all the best :-)

@Peter-Ostry said in Dual Sylphyo Setup:

Each time a player switches on his/her Sylphyo, it should connect to the same Link=Synth.

Yes, good point. That's the way it should be ...

@Thomas
I get ppp to ff with no problem.

I have adopted most of the Sylphyo SWAM recommended settings or their equivalent due to the updated SWAM 3 interface.
The important thing is to set the SWAM compressor to the minimum otherwise the attack (for wind instruments at least) tend to be too aggressive.
The SWAM compressor setting is in the effects page.

My Sylphyo settings (with the number 2 stopper) for playing with the iOS SWAM (and occasionally the GeoShred SWAM) are:

Midi mapping
Breath CC11
Send to CC11
Plus Aftertouch
Breath Max
per CC On
Delay if needed On
Velocity 127
Slider ctrl CC1
Top slider ctrl CC12
Bottum slider ctrl CC13
Elevation ctrl CC20
Roll ctrl CC76
Compass ctrl CC77
Keybend ctrl 78

Breath
Minimum 40
Range 2100
Curve linear
Filtering Off

Fingering
Flute
Octaves 5(+2)
Invert Octaves Off
Replay Same Note Off
Reaction Time 5 ms
Reaction Time Octaves 30ms
More sensitive On

Cheers,
Fred

We had a chance to try the R1 recently. It is very nice to hold and the lights are neat. It is targeted at beginners and occasional players with very low expectations regarding performance and quality, and the sound set is aimed at the asian market.

@jcfitn said in How about a Sylphyo update now?:

I like to use Roll to chage the fine tune, but if is not in a smaller range is less interesting. And in absolute with 360º of range is not sensitive enough.

Yes. Similar problem here:

I like to map Roll CC to Pitchbend (unfortunately not directly available in the Sylphyo yet). In normal mode there is a hysteresis in the neutral position, a kind of "platform", where values do not change. This is basically good, but you cannot pitch smoothly across the neutral position. Absolute mode would be the method of choice, but here your Roll range is 90° left/right, which is hardly playable.

One could say "scale the absolute Roll CC to the range you want", but not everyone in every setup can process 14Bit pitchbend coming from the Sylphyo. If you are bound to 7Bit pitchbend, you would upscale less than a quarter of the 0-127 full range and this leads to audible steps.

I think high-resolution sensor output should be scaled in the instrument, while full sensor data are available, not after MIDI translation.

@clint Thanks !

@jjaylds At this point, fingerings can only be added / modified by Aodyo and distributed in a firmware update. The ability for users to add / modify fingerings has been requested and discussed, but there has been no action so far (that we know of).

Sorry for slow thinking ...

An additional CC as indicator for the Roll direction left/right is not the best idea. Selectable CCs for left/right would be the way to go. Set them to the same value: play as usual. Set them different: You get one for Roll left and one for Roll right. Same for Compass.

Many thanks CBec !
I was Out.
Now I'm In !

Thanks Frank and Laurent

I just try the opportunity to "connect another controller to link" as said in the Link-user-guide.
And so, I try to control a software/vst with Ewi through Link.

OK, it's a bit ... huummm

Yes, Ewi direct in computer : it's OK.

PS : sorry it's Respiro (and not Reverso...)

@clint Thank you very much for your detailed answer! Have a good time!

Thanks to the Aodyo team, I received validation yesterday.

@join OK, this is excellent. More than the details, it gives me a whole new perspective on latency ... (but the details are cool too!)

Thank you !!!

(and thanks @Peter-Ostry as well)

It also explains why I saw significantly different MIDI coming out of the Link vs. the Sylphyo USB port for the same input ...

Hi Thomas,

It wasn't practical explaining the whole thing in the release notes, but you can find them in the Fingerings section of the user guide. I've highlighted the changes in the picture below.

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Hey Clint !
The Master of the Link !!
How many tries to get the good rendition ?

Ok, so, if I have well understood,
because of the mixing between A and L generating "whistles",
it's NOT possible to use LINE IN as an AUDIO INTERFACE for a PC/SoundHardware in the configuration : Sylphyo-Link-PC/SoundHardware ?

@support_aodyo
Bonjour, j'ai le même souci. Ce n'est toujours pas possible avec la dernière maj ? Si oui, à l'étude pour la prochaine ?
Thomas

@zsylvie Sylphyo Artists on Aodyo's web site?
Maybe Pedro Eustache?

@clint knobs, knobs, knobs...
Many thanks Clint !

@wx-is-dead
I'm the one who did the recordings and the sound programming/adaptations and...
I live in Amsterdam and would love to get in contact with other Sylphyo player for experiance exchange...
share do's and donts

@fanch35 Personally, I think that some kind of breath adjustment is a requirement for the Sylphyo. I cannot imagine not playing without some restriction in the Bell Port.

If you surf around this forum, you will find numerous schemes for controlling breath volume and back pressure. I've posted a set of 3D printer files on Thingiverse. You can see all things related to the Sylphyo (by myself and others) with a search: https://www.thingiverse.com/search?q=sylphyo&type=things&sort=relevant

However, I think your initial issue is still valid: there is a notable difference in volume across the internal sounds ... even with a breath restrictor ...

@peter-ostry ...yes I also would love to play with a pianist who tunes 432 (a philosophical discussion)

but I believe the sylphyo should/has to be microtunable

@join Thanks for that!

Been playing with Reaction Time and Reaction Time Octaves and I'm getting the feeling that Reaction Time Octaves only comes in to play when I move from one thumb pad to another. My issue seems to occur mostly when I lift my thumb (and simultaneously change fingering on the front side).

In the fingering I'm using, lifting the thumb goes up an octave ... but this seems to use the Reaction Time delay and not the Reaction Time Octaves delay. Is that correct??

One solution is to introduce a very slight articulation to interrupt the airflow. I've started doing this subconsciously and this reduces artifacts (pops and beeps) substantially.

Maxence just forwarded the requests to me, so you can just send me a mail directly.

I've sent you one with a link to a beta to help you check your fingering updates, so that you have my address :).

Sorry, but our desktop software does not support Linux (and even if we provide a Linux build of the latest Anyma Phi editor, we do not offer support for it).
If it doesn't appear to work with the latest version of wine, your best bet would probably be running it on a virtual machine.

@bo2 Here is another configuration that I use when I am programming the VL70-m from an editor on my laptop:

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(click on the image for a larger / more detailed version)

@meo Yes I meant range. Set it to 3000 (max). Set the minimum to 30. in MIDI mapping set BC to CC2 and Velocity to Dynamic. If still no change, try RESET (last menu item) and repeat.... Also have you checked the fingering chart for the instrument you have chosen. (under KEYS/Fingering). Good luck.... It seems a pity to give up so quickly...

@peter-ostry Thanks Peter! Part of what I am thinking is suggestion number 2 of @gbarcza :

"a finger velocity sensivity adjustment to filter out unwanted bending while normal playing"

... along with maybe an addition setting to not begin key-bending until some percentage of the pad is uncovered.

The act of key bending on physical open-hole flutes is sooo natural and common that I think it would provide a very direct means of expressivity to a significant percentage of potential Sylphyo players ...

Making use of CC's to accomplish key-bending is (I'm thinking out loud here ...) maybe not so straightforward ... such a system would need to know which base key is in effect in order to determine which pair of notes we are bending from (easy - the prior Note On) and to (challenging - where is the target note??)

It's available again.

@Clint Thanks for all the very detailed analyses you made. As soon as I get a sizeable chunk of free time, I intend to carefully read them all from the beginning and contribute tests that can help us understand what's going on and get to the bottom of this.

@steviek Nobody else of Aodyo can comment on this particular issue, unfortunately, but we're reading everything posted. It's just that I can only do one thing at a time, and such a question deserves proper treatment and will take time to answer. Sorry that we've not been very good for giving a sense of where we are and where we are heading to. I hope we'll be able to communicate a bit more often from this point on.

We have a few new things for a new Sylphyo update but couldn't yet find the time to finalize them. This post offers a bit more perspective on what's been going on for us in 2021.
While I'm sure 2022 comes with its own set of challenges, the wrap-up of the v1.0 of the Anyma Phi will likely free us some time.

@steviek .....and in different keys (but only 12, not 16 :-))

Perhaps the Direct Laser Interference Patterning (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0VP3uAVDa8) could be interesting.

New Sylphyo user (Sylphist?), old and very rusty clarinetist here. I like this proposal a lot. Esp. the alternate for low C/C#.

Just released the Chill Nite album from this concert – free for streaming and download at ClintGoss.Bandcamp.com.

I played the first five tracks live over a sparse nature soundscape. I played the last three tracks live, supported by the recorded music of my mentor, David Darling, pianist Alexander Nakarada, and the drone sounds of a particular species of “drumming fish”.

Virtual versions of real-world instruments include Native American flutes, clarinet, oboe, cello, mandolin, tubular bells, chimes, Armenian duduk, bansuri, and silver flute. I also played virtual-only instruments: Heaven Bells, Respiro (Desert Wind), EVI-NER, Marble, and Matt Traum’s IndiaFlute and Beauty.

YouTube sampler video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71RUnNvvTIQ

Full album can be streamed and downloaded at no cost: https://ClintGoss.Bandcamp.com/

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@support_aodyo yes, the pearl edition really looks cool...It has that kind of a 'classic instrument' touch.
But I wonder if there might be any drawbacks compared to the standard model? According to the manual the keybend feature seems to be not yet introduced for the pearl edition. And as there seem to be cutouts in the housing for the pearl pads what about dust and liquids entering the housing?