I'm afraid it's not that simple. Analysing the sensor data is the core of the Sylphyo, and Aodyo is unlikely to give up this technology so easily. The synthesiser code is perhaps less of a problem, it's not that special. But then there's the radio link to the Link, whose technology is probably licenced to Aodyo. What should be released anyway, the firmware and documentation or what?

I know a similar situation from Eigenharp. A freelance developer took over there, but the instruments needed software that didn't even belong to the manufacturer. The developer could only keep the instruments in operation alive. That was also important, the big Eigenharp Alpha cost more than 4,000 USD. I even had to make deep adjustments to my Mac system for my little Pico to keep it playing for a while. Finally gave up.

I'm not saying it's hopeless to aim for open source, but the Sylphyo is a complex system and an intellectual achievement. Even if Aodyo were to say ‘keep going on your own’, that would be generous, but not necessarily successful ...

However, I would be very happy if it were possible to continue in some form. Perhaps the developers will find a way, perhaps via another company.

@panekharris

You can only do this via an audio connection.

small stereo plug into the audio output of the Sylphyo and on the other side of the cable into the audio input of the Mac (but I don't know if this works) or better (and this works) into an audio interface.

if you have an Aodyo Link box, go from the two line outputs to line inputs of an audio interface. Or try instrument inputs. For me it sounds best when I use a DI box to go into the mic inputs of the interface. The line outputs of the Link are unbalanced, so use TS (Tip-Sleeve aka "mono") plugs.

@ark

Great form you!

I want to modify it sclightly want to move the top row one key down.

will check

My main instrument !!

Frank

@Peter-Ostry Thanks Peter ... excellent perspective.

Since I'm using the hydrophilic inserts in the Sylphyo mouthpieces, there is significantly less moisture internally. I don't recall ever getting the "dripping out the bottom" syndrome since I started using them.

Ah, you have the labeling on the plugs. Yes, then the shrink tubing can be used without removing the plugs :-)

I have a cheap Brother labeling machine (P-Touch D210, up to 12 mm). The normal tapes come off plugs and cables. I tried a flexi-tape, which has held up so far. But shrink-wrap is certainly better.

Your wiring looks good, and you are taking nice photos!

Wow ... that's a really spectacular aberration! I was carefully listening for something subtle ... and then ... Blaaaaahhhhhhh!

I have never experienced this, and I do use the internal sounds quite a bit, including the Trumpet ...

Some days before the same by me. I did charge it then for two days and it works. Hope yours will do the same.

@grommi said in Mouthpiece Mod to reduce Moisture:

I'm glad I registered to this community. I also had concerns about moisture in thw Sylphyo, read this thread and ordered these medical compresses from A. for a few €. They doe not lint and leave no fibers and hold back a good amount of moisture up to 1 hour of playing at usual room temperature.

I cut one "sheet" to 7,5 x 5 cm, made a roll, put it in the mouthpiece so that about 3 cm go into the moutpiece an 2 cm go into the Sylphyos housing. So cheap that you can change it as often as needed,

kompressen.jpg

Hello for my part I slide a small roll of paper towel like handkerchief or paper towel inside the tip and it does the job very well and almost free ;) it changes absolutely nothing to the breath or the dynamics of Sylphyo

still up for sale if anybody is interested

@join said in A Modern Sylphyo Keyboard is Required - The Omega Has All The Keys:

About the Duduk sound, it wasn't meant to be released because it has a few bugs (squeaks) and it still has them, but we could put it back as it is in an upcoming release.

Yes please put it back. We can play with partially broken sounds but cannot play without the sound :-)

@join said in flute like Vibrato including pitch:

@Peter-Ostry "Setting several parameters after each sound change is unacceptable. That's why I hardly ever play the internal sounds, but mostly software instruments."
Do you mean that the internal sounds don't remember slider positions?

No, I meant that more generally. If someone wants or needs different Sylphyo settings for different internal sounds, they won't be happy without preset management. Nobody wants to go to the menu hierarchy after a sound change and copy the respective settings from a piece of paper.

At least that's the case for me, I only use a few internal sounds that I like with my basic settings. I do everything else with external synths where I can save presets.

But I don't know if I'm a typical user. For me, the Sylphyo is more of a specialised controller than an instrument on its own.

We haven't abandoned anything, but Sylphyo updates have definitely taken a backseat. That said, the synth engine in the Sylphyo is unable to run a physical model as good as SWAM woodwinds (which runs on powerful, battery-hungry computers), that's just a hardware limitation.

As you forgot the link, I'm posting it here: W. Duch - music recordings.

@Peter-Ostry merci beaucoup pour ces informations

@Peter-Ostry Thanks Peter. I didn't try as I was able to determine that the problem was that the LinkReceiver had a different firmware version than the Sylphyo.

Thanks for the update @Laurent_AODYO ...

Taking a closer look at SuperBooth and ... well ... it looks pretty daunting. I'm from the U.S. and it's an 8 hour red-eye each way. Tickets are shown as "Unavailable" on their site (and also no workshop postings).

Then ... accommodations are far away: 50 minute train ride + 10 min walk + 20 minute walk. That's a total of 3 hours of commuting each day.
Then there's the restrictions: can't bring gear (really??), can't buy anything, and "better bring cash".

And now ... No Aodyo ...

Not sure if I'm missing something ...

Is there a better way to do SuperBooth??

Thank you Clint

@Clint said in Addition to Native Flute fingerings:

Just checked the firmware download page and the Sylphyo firmware seems to be the latest, based on the file size (which changed from the original 1.5.0 to the update with this fingering restored).

The size of the firmware with this update shows in Windows Explorer as 14,965 KB.

I can confirm that the download file size of the macOS version of the Sylphyo (and Link) firmware version 1.5.0 on Aodyo's website, has also grown a little bit larger since the 12 September 2023 version.

@Friedus Thanks, I wish I had more time to train ... I have now Akai USB, 4000s and 5000, but Sylpho is my favorite, although I miss a decent mouthpiece.

So many companies seem to end up like this. They start off with all the “we're doing this for you” stuff (no, they had an idea to make money) and when they get out of their depth or things go wrong, those who paid a LOT of money don't count at all. They'll probably start expecting us to feel sorry for them soon. Sure, that's startup capitalism, but they should be more honest to start with, especially to themselves.

Ah, Max4Live, the ugly little brother of Max :-)
So you got a quick solution, very good!

@ark Hi

For my part, I use the D without the thumb only when going from bass to treble. When I go down from the treble to the bass I switch to a D with both hands. I hope it's clear ...

No. The Link only gets this information from the Sylphyo. As far as I understand Aodyo's comments (we have discussed such things here before), the communication from the Sylphyo to the Link is not MIDI, so we cannot simulate it by sending MIDI data.

By the way, I don't know of any device where you can remotely set the MIDI channel on the fly by sending MIDI commands.

If you want to change the transmit channel or send on multiple channels, you have to do it the traditional way, after the Link, with hardware or software. The receiving channel is only changeable with the Sylphyo.

Petite mise à jour sympa qui me convient bien avec ses 2 sons de trompette et Kalinka !
Perso, je couple les sons de ma UVI Workstation avec les sons internes et ça déménage ... bravo encore aux développeurs !

Ask and ye shall receive. Eventually.

https://aodyo.com/product/softcase-sylphyo-link/

Hello I can´t speak French, but I think you said that it would be nice to have a similar Software for the Sylphyo. I agree. But when you imagine that the lust update (often asked for) is more than two years ago, I have no hope that this will happen. Greetings Friedus

@Gromit Thanks for the news ! Aodyo really know how to communicate...

@Peter-Ostry et @Friedus, I cannot deny that you are both right.
I cannot imagine that no one from Aodyo reads these posts. So, Aodyo, can we have general health information of the start up?

@NS-D
I suggest you start with the fingering you are most familiar with, in this case saxophone. If you need it differently, e.g. for fast or comfortable #/b changes, you can try other fingerings or settings.

Except for simple flutes, no fingering matches the original instrument exactly anyway, because the Sylphyo has no additional flaps.

welcome!!

i came from the wx es as wel ; via akai , but hate the bite.

ecept for 26 i do not use internal sounds, use a Hydra and a anyma phi

frank

it is a shame people do not all speak just dutch

--
dutch deutsch, diets means ; their mother tongue

@ark

i have seven octaves
play the highest octave, release thumb , add an octave at the top

same at the bottom
play the lowest octave , release thumb, and it goes down one octave

there are quite some alternate fingerings
take care if one changes , one has to execise a lot to master them.

i do not combine different wind controllers. just the sylphio

need to sell the other ones ...

frank

This is just an undocumented behavior we apply to the soundset list.
Each time you reach the top of the list you get back to the first one.

@Clint
Thank you for your reply.
Unfortunately google translate doesn't always do the job, but for me "enriching" meant adding a preset or two.
Have a good day

@ark said in Why can’t Note-off Delay be Zero?:

should be treated as a bug

Thanks @ark! I know understand the legato protocol better ... but I'd really hate to add a physical box to my rig and introduce latency just for this bug ...

Not sure if a bug fix at that low level is a possibility these day ... been quite a while since the last official firmware update ...

@Peter-Ostry Sound great!

@wwoodard8 I am a flute player. The breath support is far easier on the Sylphyo. You can set the breath control to how you like it. Unless you have serious health/lung problems, I do not see any problems with breath support, it is minimal on the Sylphyo, and no special exercises are needed.... Do you own one or are you thinking of buying one? I recommend the breath adjustment kit, which gives you three options of plug sizes for the bottom end of the instrument.
I use the middle size one....cost 20 Euros... or you can make your own improvised plug... thanks

I have to buy everything.
I want this garage!

@ahiotis Hi

The connection which takes the power from the Host, the computer, also transfers the data, So id you connect from the small usb connector to the Mac, your conection will work, and midi data will be transferred,

I Think Sylbench is only meant to check your setting of the CC in the Sylphio, least how i Use it.

The host connector is intended to connect a USB device, like a keyboard. Never used that.

Regards

Frank

sorry i did not see your question before