@paul-flute
Yes, Max can probably do more than you will ever need but this is normal. Nobody uses all of the program. Some people build MIDI routers and processors, some build synthesizers, sequencers, audio effects, generative patches, museum installations, sensor applications etc.

However, Max is expensive and it really takes a while to learn the basics. The fun comes afterwards. You could risk 1-2 months subscription if you are not convinced after the 30-day trial period.

@paul-flute said:

I would love to hear the things you have done... do you have any examples to share?

Example
MP4 movie: Generative Text
A demonstration of a generative music system I tried in Max. The idea was, that rhythmic melodic text should produce rhythmic melodic music. The first half plays capital letters and pauses. The second half plays upper- and lowercase letters as notes and makes pauses after syllables, words, sentences and paragraphs. The sound comes from two AU plugins, one for uppercase and one for lowercase characters. Notes and weighting per character are in a kind of table, based on the German language (simple statistics).

I think the example covers some of the bandwidth Max is capable of. Sometimes you need a bit of a programmers brain, sometimes technical creativity. And you must not get scared of endless possibilities.

The "Help" files and the "References" for each single object right in the program are invaluable sources for learning and refinig the skills. YouTube provides Max tutorials. The Max forum is pretty good but not really friendly to beginners. You rather want to read and search in the forum before you start with questions.

@bibenu You're welcome :)

@clint said in Floor Stand:

Another concern is that the internal airway of my Sylphyo does not appear to be "sealed". If I block the bell port completely and breathe gently through the mouthpiece, air freely escapes ... to ?someplace?. It is not escaping from around the mouthpiece, so it must be going someplace in the body of the instrument.

I found the answer to this one: I was actually doing the test with the mouthpiece removed - I was breathing into the blue collar. In this setup, the air does escape (from under the blue collar?).

When I install the mouthpiece and close the bell port with my finger, all is tightly sealed - only a miniscule amount of air seems to escape ... barely noticable.

@milododds I only do it as a hobby too. Thanks for your soundcloud link. That's an impressive collection of recordings. I've never recorded myself playing an instrument... maybe one day.

It will be interesting to see how the anyma phi evolves, and what else gets added to it. I like the idea of a brass simulation. The Korg Prophecy had one, apparently, but I don't know how useful it was. It seems to have been to hard to edit, for most people to do more than tweak the factory patches.

@reidid789 It's a favorite post of mine!

@support_aodyo Soft MIDI Thru would be useful.

Since it would be done in software, you could also consider having the option of simple polyphonic chaining - by not passing on notes that are played, and having the option (as a Note Priority setting) of not accepting a new note while one is held down but passing it on to the next synth in the chain, instead.

That would encourage people to own more than one anyma phi, to add more polyphonic voices.

@peter-ostry My personal preference is to use all CCs, because a CC is only 3 bytes long, and can be shorted to two if there's a stream of the same one, by using "running status", where the first (status) byte is only sent when it changes.

It's also the easiest thing to program a hardware MIDI controller to send directly, i.e. for one where you can set which CC each control takes. Plus it's easier to use CCs than either NRPN or sysex in Ctrlr.

One problem with CCs is that there are only so many of them (128) and some of them are best not used for this purpose, because they have very specific meanings. Realistically, there are only maybe 100 that are useable, in most cases.

The other problem is that they only send 7 bits of data (representing 0-127).

The next choice would be NRPNs. They're longer than a CC but normally shorter than a sysex message. They can send 14 bits of data (representing 0-16383) and it's not essential to send both bytes at once, which has a big advantage;

Most MIDI controllers encode their knobs to 7 bits. On some, it's possible to set a control to physically send either the top 7 bits (course value) or the lower 7 bits (fine).

Failing that, it can be done in something like Ctrlr - the physical MIDI controller can sent CCs representing course and fine values, which Ctrlr can then translate to course and fine NRPN values.

I guess anyma phi needs to use NRPNs rather than CCs for those two reasons - two many parameters to fit in the useable range of CCs, and needing more resolution than 7 bits.

It could be done in sysex, but there are very few physical MIDI controllers that can do that at all, let alone well. Having made a few "panels", and changes to panels, in Ctlr, I much prefer using CCs, but I can see that might not be an option.

This issue seems to be fixed in the latest RC13.7 release (dated 7/18/2021). (I was actually using an earlier RC13.7 version dated 7/11/2021 when I had these issues).

I can now increase the Breath Rate on the Sylphyo all the way up to Max with no apparent problems.

Loving the Sylphyo + XpressO combination!

@clint This is awesome, you've just given me an idea. I'm going to run down to Home Depot and get a piece of black ABS pipe with caps and create a small case while using some grey foam to go around the Sylphyo. It's one of those instruments you just want to take to the park or out into the woods. This way it will be waterproof let alone can absorb shock if accidently dropped.

@milododds I am now getting decent volume both through the headphones and speaker. I wish I knew exactly what I did to fix that particular sub-issue but it's now sounding amazing. I am now learning how every control within the Matrix effects the sound. So far "Tuning" is my favorite. I still have much to learn but I don't feel lost or frustrated any longer. I hope that my post helps anyone who might be trying to use a non-compatible keyboard. Case closed.

@lux Please try a factory reset from the menu.

@bibenu
Thanks, got it!

Hi, is a plugin/VST version of the editor coming? That would be wonderful.

Another demo with percussive sounds here:

https://youtu.be/GhhB8RZXfO0

@clint Dear Clint
I am an amateur musician, my instruments, are clarinet and saxophones. I have decided to digitize my musical exercises for reasons of time. SYLFYO instruments are easy to learn fingering?. Could you send me the fingering you currently use to play the Bb clarinet with SYLPHYO? I’II leave you my email. I would be really grateful to you. In your opinion which is the best aerophone instrument to digitize the clarinet sound? Thanks. Best regards.
My email: ar.bersani@alice.it

Armando Bersani

Dear Rick Novy,

I am an amateur musician, my instruments, are clarinet and saxophones. I have decided to digitize my musical exercises for reasons of time. SYLFYO instruments is easy to learn fingering?. Could you send me the fingering you currently use to play the Bb clarinet with SYLPHYO? I’II leave you my email. I would be really grateful to you. In your opinion which is the best aerophone instrument to digitize the clarinet sound? Thanks. Best regards.
My email: ar.bersani@alice.it

Armando Bersani

Dear Javier

I am an amateur musician, my instruments, are clarinet and saxophones. I have decided to digitize my musical exercises for reasons of time. SYLFYO instruments is easy to learn fingering?. Could you send me the fingering you currently use to play the Bb clarinet with SYLPHYO? I’II leave you my email. I would be really grateful to you. In your opinion which is the best aerophone instrument to digitize the clarinet sound? Thanks. Best regards.
My email: ar.bersani@alice.it

Armando Bersani

@veezbo said in Alternate Clarinet Fingering:

Since we cannot do custom fingerings yet, I would like to please request an alternate clarinet fingering which I think is more natural to the original instrument. Some of the individual notes can be used as alternate fingerings for notes in the current fingering as well.

C: [Left] Thumb, Index, Middle, Ring. [Right] Index, Middle, Ring, Pinky
C#: [Left] Thumb, Index, Middle, Ring, Pinky. [Right] Index, Middle, Ring, Pinky
(This more closely resembles the C and C# that I think most clarinetists use, and also makes fingering D and Eb easier)
D: Current
Eb: Current
E: Current
F: Current
F#: Current AND [Left] Thumb, Index, Middle, Ring. [Right] Index, Ring
(Allows for the alternate F# fingering available on clarinets).
G: Current
G#: Current
Bb: Current AND [Left] Thumb, Index, Middle. [Right] Index
(Adds an alternate, but very natural Bb fingering on the clarinet).
B: Current
C`: Current
C`#: Current AND [Left] Thumb. [Right] Index.
(Adds an alternate C# fingering also available on the clarinet)
D`: An option to remove the alternate fingering with no fingers- I don't see the point, and I think it causes issues with playing C` occasionally.
Eb`: Current AND [Left] Thumb, Middle, Ring. [Right] Pinky
(Resembles an alternate fingering for Eb in the upper register on the clarinet).
E`: Current
F`: Current
F#`: Current
G`: Current

What do other clarinetists think?

Dear Veezbo

I am an amateur musician, my instruments, are clarinet and saxophones. I have decided to digitize my musical exercises for reasons of time. SYLFYO instruments is easy to learn fingering?. Could you send me the fingering you currently use to play the Bb clarinet with SYLPHYO? I’II leave you my email. I would be really grateful to you. In your opinion which is the best aerophone instrument to digitize the clarinet sound? Thanks. Best regards.
My email: ar.bersani@alice.it

Armando Bersani

@relevart71
I also got a broken power supply cable. A continuity test showed that the ground wire was not connected between the USB and the barrel. Aodyo will send me a replacement cable.

@andyhornblower said in Planned time-line:

Now we just need somewhere better to put them all together in one place.

Agreed. What do you think @Support_AODYO ?

@bibenu said in Planned time-line:

I'm very much in favour of one place to find user-contributed patches. Either

One thread (perhaps pinned ?) in the Anyma Phi section of the forum, or perhaps even a sub-forum of Anyma Phi General (similar to Early Adopter Lounge) ... either one of those.
Or get a new section set up on say https://www.presetpatch.com or https://patchstorage.com/

I posted the patch I mentioned, with the internal piezo tap (or ext in) and an oscillator, in a thread where the ability to post a patch was being discussed. Here's a link to the patch:

Piezo or Play&.anymaphi-patch

@markusschloesser I'd agree, that seems like a reasonable enhancement. One that's used on other hardware too, so it's not like it would be difficult for people to learn.

@andyhornblower that's helpful, thanks!
Can I suggest to put that into either the manual and /or the FAQ?

@bibenu said in [Renaming a patch doesn't stick

I’m pretty sure I’ve done exactly that to make an edit permanent. Might have been on the 8.80 firmware though.

Thanks. I have found a workaround, for now... actually two, but one way is a bid dicier.

The first way I found was to export the patch from the editor, then edit the file with a hex editor, before importing it again. That actually works, but I was having to guess where the name had to end, to avoid overwriting something else.

That step isn't needed though. I found I can rename it in the editor, then export the patch, then import it again. Importing it makes a permanent change on the synth.

If this isn't a bug, then the programmer is looking at the problem in a very different way from me. Sometimes when I point out bugs in software I'm told "No, it's meant to do that", even though I can't see any reason why it would be.

Either way, I'd like to suggest that the behaviour should be to rename it on the synth, permanently, when we use rename in the editor. Is this part of the forum an appropriate place to report such things?

@support_aodyo Oh that would be super cool. Oh don't worry I'm a patient guy, as you get to my age (50+) you tend to just take things in stride. I'm a Kickstarter Super Backer and I love helping projects like this, Aodyo is a huge success. I also just got your Sylphyo + Link and last night was playing some amazing things, totally beats a keyboard when it comes to just playing with your heart and soul. I know I'm getting close to figuring out the Anyma Phi setup. If/when I do I will reply back with what I did.

@bibenu Thanks... It seems to be Click, then turn, to see Diagnostics. I hadn't noticed it on power up. It seems to be shown below the logo, but barely long enough to register on my retinas.

On trying the new editor version, from the 0.8.90 zip download, I was told I needed to update it, so I'm now on the newest firmware version and didn't see what version it was on initially, before I did that.

However, the same thing still happens.

To be clearer, it's on the percussive patches. If I turn it on, then play those without sending CC2, it works fine, but as soon as I send CC2 I get the problem - no note can be played twice in a row on the percussive patches, even if I switch to a different patch and back again. That persists until I turn the anyma off and back on again.

That's going to cause problems if I try to play those patches with a wind controller, and there doesn't seem to be any reason why I couldn't, other than that bug.

On the subject of the captcha system, how would a blind person join this forum?

I've spoken to blind musicians before, and I'm aware that blind people use the internet with screen reader software. How would they solve a visual puzzle, like that one?

I agree that the power cable is far too short. I've extended mine using a guitar pedal daisy chain lead, for now, with short pieces of silicone tubing pushed onto the unused power jacks.

Why not use a USB socket for power instead of the 2.1mm jack socket? Those are typically used for 9V or 12V DC, and even 9V centre negative, for guitar pedals. Would the Anyma Phi survive someone plugging in one of those, by mistake?

If it had a USB socket instead, it would be less of a problem because we almost all have a variety of USB leads, of different lengths.

This is described in the "Settings" chapter (p.48). You just need to go to the Settings (press the display encoder), and to "CC mapping". There you can modify the CCs for Expression and controls A/B/C/D.

@paulbarnsley you’re right, this should be in the manual at least, for preference also on the website.
226 x 130 x 65 mm - depth 130 is approximate … doesn’t allow for the 1/4 inc jacks protruding of course.

@support_aodyo So that is #35: Silent (MIDI Ctrl) ... I am guessing ...

@bibenu fixed in latest update https://community.aodyo.com/topic/753/anyma-phi-v0-8-90-pre-release-update

@join Thank you for your response! That's a really good solution.

I missed something you had clearly stated in the manual:

"What this means is that you can actually have two
versions of the matrix in a patch, which could lead to two drastically
different sounds, and cross-fade between both using Morph."

The key there is that only the matrix settings are morphed. I have a Gotharman Tiny Little Deformer (sounds great routed through the Anyma Phi) which allows you to morph every single aspect of a patch, including sequencer settings and modulation routings and amounts. I'm not saying that the Anyma Phi should be like that - I'm just reminding all users that even if they are familiar with the idea of morphing from other hardware or software, they need to bear in mind that on the AP, what is morphed is specifically the matrix settings.

And I'll say it again, now that I understand it, the way you implemented that in the editor is very simple and clear. Thanks!

@join Confirmed fixed by latest update https://community.aodyo.com/topic/753/anyma-phi-v0-8-90-pre-release-update

@support_aodyo I think he means adding the 3rd register flute fingerings. eg D3 has only 2 fingers left hand on, (index off, 2nd & 3rd fingers down.) The third register fingerings on the flute are the most difficult. 1st and 2nd are quite similar, but 3rd uses cross fingerings lifting some and pressing others not used in the first 2 octaves. I think you must give up this idea, and simply use the octave keys which simplifies this. See the Sylphyo as its own distinctive instrument, otherwise you will always struggle with this. Otherwise where do you stop wanting more similarities to the flute? For one, the D# key used mostly for venting on flute is not necessary... & there are no trill keys etc....

@peter-ostry Ah yes of course... Thank you. (again)

@wx-is-dead Sure email me for contact. breathsound@yahoo.com

I've sent you a message about this! I'd be happy to help you out with discovering the Sylphyo

This is something we could decide to do at some point, but we haven't planned it yet, because there are third party tools that do this well. If there is enough demand, we might consider it.

With macOS, there is MidiKeys, and for other platforms you can use something like VMPK. Just tell the program to output on the Anyma Phi port (to send the MIDI to your Anyma Phi, not the editor) and you should be good.

@paul-flute Seems it may not be a moisture problem... Also I am finding the Sylphyo is unexpectedly in Menu mode (sometimes in Quick Settings, sometimes in Settings) I may be inadvertently touching the Sylphyo button in top front ... or perhaps it is going into settings by itself... ? I am not consciously using the slider so am puzzled that I find myself in Settings... Then again the slider may be the cause of all my problems? When the Sylphyo has shifted key,(usually down a whole tone),I can sometimes get it back into the right key, by swiping the slider up and down. Sometimes for a few seconds, the key is off half a semitone.. Also sometime this results in a large pitch bend, and sometimes not touching the slider I get a huge portamento effect down the octave,,, ?? Trying to stay sane.... help...

@join Thank you. That answers two of my questions: “what is Artin” and “which is the MI stuff”. ;)

@paul-flute Just to be clear, I didn't step in because the 48 hour charge cycle would have been my recommendation ! Happy to hear it worked :)

@join
I send a mail to support@aodyo.com and I'm wating for reply.

Fault is not i my PC or cables, becouse in first day I maked update procedure succsefly and Anyma Phi was setting up through manager from PC whithout problems in next days.

@exiannyc yes, I think that wind instruments, and applying an envelope to those for a ‘struck’ sound, is what I need to explore next.

Merci pour tes encouragements :) !

That nothing happens when clicking "Import patch" or "Import bank" on Windows is a problem, it's supposed to work. While we're fixing that, you can still drag and drop patches and banks from the Windows Explorer to the Editor window and it should still work.

The MIDI input and output you need to select in the Editor are those that correspond to the Anyma Phi. If you want to use your keyboard while still plugged into your computer, you would need to use a program such as MidiOx (or MidiPipe on macOS) that can forward a MIDI input to another MIDI output. Or you can simply plug your MIDI keyboard directly to your Anyma Phi. The Editor is a kind of remote control for the Anyma Phi, nothing more.

This looks like a Windows limitation, and if so, there's nothing we can do and it's indeed infortunate. Again, something like MidiOx could help because you could duplicate the MIDI data onto two different ports.

If you plug a microphone or an instrument into the LINE IN port, its sound will replace that of the internal piezo behind the case, and will be used as well in the Piezo Pling patch. Can you get any sound with this method?

BTW, on stage you can hang the Sylphyo with the neck strap on a microphone stand or something else and don't need a stand for it. I've done that with a WX5 all the time and find it more secure than a bottom stand. Of course you want a nice long hook mounted to the stand. In good ol' days next to cup holder and ashtray, today under the iPad clamp.