Hello Frank,
thank you for your comments, but the discussion no longer has anything to do with this forum or this thread and I don't want to continue it here. I am writing this because it would be impolite not to reply after your effort.

Posts made by Peter Ostry
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RE: Sylphyo Link on phantom power?
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RE: Sylphyo Link on phantom power?
@frank
Then you are a lucky man. But there are also sound engineers who route suspect signals through DI boxes on principle.I have now put the Sylphyo Link and also two synths behind a multiport DI box. The Link box is safe and as an additional benefit there is less noise overall.
You can't convince me with experience alone, since I'm almost 71 we could be about the same age :-)
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RE: Update
We won't hear from Aodyo until the Omega synth is on the market or the project is cancelled. Even that is not certain. As we know, there is only one software developer and we will be lucky if he still works for Aodyo after the Phi/Omega adventure.
I predict a similar course for the Sylphyo as for the Eigenharp controller. One of the best products of its time, too few sales, developer lost and goodbye. The Eigenharp fared worse because it doesn't work without computer software.
With the Sylphyo we have the advantage that it is not tied to external software. We can use it as long as the hardware lasts. From this point of view, it is fortunate that there is no editor software necessary for it to function. So be careful with your wish for an editor, it might come true ...
Maybe Aodyo is angry with me now, but I don't even get an answer to a simple question in the forum and by email. After all, I'm just an annoying customer who has already bought. I can live with it, fortunately the product works and we also know how to replace the battery.
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RE: Sylphyo Link on phantom power?
@Clint
Yes, of course. Input or output is not the question. It's simply 48 volts of DC hitting some components. If they are not adequately protected, it goes "ssshh..." and the gig is over. -
RE: Sylphyo Link on phantom power?
@frank
What is the exact characteristic for an electrical exit, possibly a "no entry" sign? Then my power is not only a phantom, it also can not read. That was certainly the reason why it grilled my old ribbon mic and later burned the output stage of a preamp. I'm for more education: Phantom powers must be able to read! -
Sylphyo Link on phantom power?
What happens if the Sylphyo Link line outputs are connected to an interface input with phantom power - is this dangerous for the Link?
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RE: More Internal Sounds needed here!
@Gromit
Yes, it is spring-loaded and bi-directional. I don't remember exactly, but I think there is a small potentiometer underneath, but quite precise. And yes it is mostly used for pitchbend.On the Sylphyo I would use it for Pitchbend and ModWheel because the rear touch surface is almost unusable for me, practically out of reach, and I never know where my finger is until I hear it.
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RE: Fingering question for a novice
@NS-D
I suggest you start with the fingering you are most familiar with, in this case saxophone. If you need it differently, e.g. for fast or comfortable #/b changes, you can try other fingerings or settings.Except for simple flutes, no fingering matches the original instrument exactly anyway, because the Sylphyo has no additional flaps.
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RE: More Internal Sounds needed here!
@mathiross
I mean this thing on the WX controllers:Maybe it is just called Rocker because it is not a switch.
I miss it on the Sylphyo, but I miss mechanical elements anyway. I'm not fond of touch plates. I love the Sylphyo for it's breath sensibility and the transformation to MIDI. Everything else is improvable.
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RE: More Internal Sounds needed here!
@ark
Well, I can't agree unconditionally. I very rarely use the internal sounds.But: The blow sensor and gyroscope system from the Sylphyo, key buttons from the Eigenharp, rocker switch, mouthpiece and octave buttons from the WX, and new software with an editor – that would be a wonderful instrument :-)
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RE: Mouthpiece Mod to reduce Moisture
@mathiross said in Mouthpiece Mod to reduce Moisture:
I'm playing the sylphyo in the new progressive rock band ODDLEAF. Take a look here: https://oddleaf.net
Wow ... I love this music. Kinda jazzy progrock, if this designation is allowed. I like the overall vibe, the people, the voicing, harmonies, tempo changes, careful selection and usage of instruments, everything. Thank you for showing me this!
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RE: Store Sylphyo is a Low-Humidity Container?
I think that works. Painted the inside of the box, sealed it so to speak, and let it dry for a long time. Then put in the sylphyo and desiccant and after three days the silica gel balls are still a little orange and I think that will get better.
I'm not good with woodwork but a second version I would do differently. The volume of the case is about six times the Sylphyo. Difficult to keep that dry. But it is relatively pretty, my Sylphyo shrine :-)
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RE: Anyma Phi frozen at start issue
Moving PCBs are a design flaw. Is there no way to keep them in place? With a screw in the right place or something.
I don't have an Anima Phi, but in the photo I see three large copper rings on the PCBs, like the ones usually used for retaining screws. Are they not in the right place, or not in use at all?
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RE: Mouthpiece Mod to reduce Moisture
Not sure if that scicominc material is the right stuff, but you will find out. Hydrophobic does not like water, Hydrophilic filters water, we don't want either. If it really works, this may be because of changed circumstances for condensation inside the mouthpiece. But then almost any material with a porous surface should work. And what about the airflow?
Regarding the tubes and if the material works – they don’t offer the dimension we need on their website.
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Have you tried to roll one layer of a thin kitchen sponge into the mouthpiece? I don't know how it is called in your country, we call it 'Wettex' which is a company label.
This is just my first try. I think the "tube" should be a little longer and maybe we have to make sure that we don't blow the whole thing into the Sylphyo’s main tube. An elastic ring that holds it in place? The material definitely absorbs liquid, that's its job, and it costs nearly nothing.
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RE: Mouthpiece Mod to reduce Moisture
Are you sure that the condensate is disciplined enough to follow gravity and flow into the area where you can comfortably collect it, despite the strong airflow?
Maybe you need an "all-around pocket", an inset second wall, an inner tube with minimal upper gap into which to blow the condensate.
But any pocket in there will give turbulence. If you look into the main tube of the Sylphyo from above, you will see (feel) a very smooth, flat transition where the mouthpiece connects. I imagine they did that for a reason, because strong turbulence could support sensor flutter.
That's why I think your design should be very streamlined. If some droplets enthusiastically take advantage of that to jump over the pocket along with the air, that's fine too.
As a test, perhaps a ring would be suitable, which you insert into the mouthpiece at various points to see if anything at all collects there that is worth to drain off.
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RE: Mouthpiece Mod to reduce Moisture
Never heard of such a modification. Not for any wind instrument. Could be an invention.
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An S-shaped curved mouthpiece with a water flap.
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Milling grooves inside and inserting absorbent material? Problem with drying/replacement.
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Drill holes in the sides and insert absorbent pins, according to the method "1/3 absorbent surface is 1/3 less condensation"? Problem with drying/replacement.
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Insert a thin-walled sleeve with a rough surface and hope that condensation does not occur there. But then where does it take place and does the rough surface do anything to the airflow? A paper sleeve would do the trick, as long as it doesn't occur to her to play herself ...
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Mill blind holes in the inside so that less condensation occurs and moisture remains trapped longer. Is the inevitable airflow turbulence unfavourable?
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Heat the mouthpiece, the upper part, or the whole tube of the sylphyo to human saliva temperature to avoid condesation. Maybe Aodyo can put in a stronger processor that heats quite incidentally :-)
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Make a request to NASA.
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RE: Store Sylphyo is a Low-Humidity Container?
First experience with this design:
The internal treatment with linseed oil varnish was environmentally welcome, but practically a stupid idea. Because of the stench, the part has been empty open for a week and still stinks. I have learned that in such an application you leave the wood raw inside or seal it with odorless paint.
When closed, the silica gel pearls in both bowls darken within three days. Maybe that's the varnish too, but I rather think wood is probably good to keep cigars moist, but not so much to keep Sylphyo's dry.
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RE: Loose Casing
@Clint
Yes, if the screw just loosened, you can tighten it.
There are more like it on the Sylphyo, you should check them all.The tool is called "Torx" or TX.
Quite common. From above it looks like a star.
Mine has the size "T10" engraved.You can buy this tools as Bits or as complete screwdrivers or as wrenches.
The sets often include unusual shapes that can help repair equipment.
If you don't have such things, I recomment a solid box with assorted bits
and a Bit holder, preferably in SAE and metric sizes.If you feel luxurious right now, you can look on Amazon for "iFixit Manta Driver Kit".
That is quite universal for household and electronics.
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RE: Store Sylphyo is a Low-Humidity Container?
Here is the prototype of my low-humidity container, which is supposed to keep the Sylphyo protected and reasonably dry. Seems to work, the long-term test is still pending.
The case is from Ebay, it's built by a hobby carpenter for displaying model cars and trains, and is originally intended for horizontal use. I just treated the raw plywood with linseed oil varnish.
At both ends the manufacturer provides acrylic glass plates, additionally I inserted two small wooden boards with holes. I put the Sylphyo only dry in, nevertheless at the lower board a usual kitchen sponge cloth lies, in order to catch possible dripping from the instrument. The small faces of the acrylic compartments and wooden boards have gaskets that rub lightly against the large acrylic faceplate. In fact, the gaskets are slotted sheats of audio cables.
To put the Sylphyo in or take it out, I slide the front panel up. The mouthpiece has its holder right above the Sylphyo’s body to remind me not to put it in with the mouthpiece on. The USB cable goes into the box at the back.
The construction is pretty tight, though not airtight in the technical sense. I trust the microclimate. If it works, I will probably screw the case to the wall. I have to add that I don't live in a very humid climate (Austria, Central Europe). With wooden instruments, for example, we rather have problems not letting them dry out from room heating over the cold season.
I hope the Sylphyo will feel comfortable in its new home, until now it had to hang in a cloth bag on a shelf.
Total cost:
Wooden box with acrylic glass panes from Ebay: €70 ($76)
1 kg (2.2 lb) silica gel from Amazon: €20 ($22)
Two nice bowls for the desiccant from the kitchen supply store: €8 ($9)
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RE: Robkoo R1
We already had a short discussion about this controller in this forum:
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RE: Under the Blue Ring
@reidid789
Ah, I just read in the (planned) specifications that the Photon has adjustable airflow. Mechanically, I hope. If it comes close to the Sylphyo with that, it's impressive with the other features.Then again, I wonder why I would put such a thing on the Sylphyo. We'll see if imoxplus really brings out the Photon and for which instruments there will be adapters. Aodyo has to programme the interface and their priorities seem to be elsewhere at the moment. But let's look hopefully into the future, maybe they are working on it right now and will be ready when imoxplus has the lost chips again :-)
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RE: Under the Blue Ring
Slowly, slowly... one strength of the Sylphyo is its very special sensitivity to airflow, which makes it probably the only wind controller that can really sound like a wind instrument. Of course, many of us would like something like the Photon mouthpiece, but it would make the Sylphyo a different instrument because the Sylphyo’s sensor is bypassed and the airflow is measured differently.
For me, it would be fine to be able to use the Sylphyo in two configurations. But I am not sure if I would still like to have these strange touch surfaces of the Sylphyo together with the Photon mouthpiece. I think with the Photon I would like mechanical buttons/flaps better. Special functions like sucking as a separate event are of course great, especially for experimental music.
But even though the Photon mouthpiece promises many features, I would actually prefer to have a better version of the Yamaha WX mouthpiece on the Sylphyo. To let the air flow through and to transmit the position and movement of the reed into the prepared slot to the Sylphyo electronics.
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RE: Store Sylphyo is a Low-Humidity Container?
Thanks, now I can take a closer look and find a solution for myself.
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RE: Under the Blue Ring
Perfect!
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RE: Store Sylphyo is a Low-Humidity Container?
@Clint
You're right. I did a little research on the web regarding the storage of circuit boards and electronic components and learned the basics pretty quickly: keep the parts dry or they will fail. Of course there are technical details, but I think as musicians we can simplify things and keep our electronic instruments dry with the same conscientiousness as we avoid drying out wooden instruments.Which products do you use for your 3D printing material?
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RE: Under the Blue Ring
@Clint said:
I am not sure what the air-path is that you are describing here:
"the inner gap between the housing and the blue ring."
If you look inside the main tube with the blue ring on, you will see a gap between the ring and the Sylphyo's body. The upper part of the Sylphyo is not airtight and it doesn't have to be, because the mouthpiece seals the main tube when pushed in, making the instrument playable. Only in your case does this seem to be a problem because the small channel to the electronics is not completely closed. Even with the mouthpiece in place, moisture can get in over time, but with the mouthpiece off, moisture will definitely get in there. As Laurent said, the hole to the electronics compartment needs to be sealed.
@Clint said:
Since I have no experience with Hot Glue, I have many concerns with attempting to seal the active mouthpiece port.
Will I melt the plastic of the body of the Sylphyo?
No. The melting point of hot glue is lower than that of the Sylphyo.
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Will I drip glue into the active mouthpiece port and into the Zone of Electronics?
No. Hot glue is too thick for the small hole. It won't go in easily.
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Will some undreamt-of calamity befall my Syphyo in my fledgling attempts at Hot Glue Art and I'll be left playing a kazoo at gigs.
No. And as we know, Kazoos have moisture problems :-)
@Peter-Ostry said:
Let it warm up and try a few times somewhere else, then you can go for the Sylphyo. If it doesn't work right away, just let it cool down and pull away with your fingers. If you put the blue ring on immediately afterwards, it's fixed just like Aodyo did.
That was an awkward description. I meant that you immediately put the blue ring on the hot glue to fix it. Only if the glue application is unsuccessful, you allow the glue to cool briefly and remove it. The glue is softer than the Sylphyo and it doesn't attack the plastic. It's a mechanical bond, not a chemical bond.
I'm sorry if I sound incomprehensible at times. My English is not good enough for technical precision and Google Translate is smart, but from what I can see it cannot be trusted for technical subjects.
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I believe that the O-Ring on my black mouthpiece does not make a perfect seal, since there is a very slight wobble in my mouthpiece when it is fully seated. Not a problem playing, but maybe there is a slight moist air leak back up underneath the blue ring.
Maybe yes. But "slight wobble"? I would say my mouthpiece fits quite well, at least as well as you can expect from a piece of plastic with an O-ring. The conical shape is well done. My spare mouthpiece fits the same way. However, I think two O-rings would be better for the fit.
But your O-ring isn't dry, is it? It shouldn't be. There are silicone-based care products for O-rings and seals in general. I have one of the type used for scuba gear, but there are many. Search for "silicone-based lubrication for O-rings".
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RE: Under the Blue Ring
@Clint
Hot glue is a no brainer, easy to apply and remove. It's not really an adhesive, but a thermoplastic mass that holds things together elastically. You can buy a set with the simple "pistol" and a few sticks online for little money anywhere.Let it warm up and try a few times somewhere else, then you can go for the Sylphyo. If it doesn't work right away, just let it cool down and pull away with your fingers. If you put the blue ring on immediately afterwards, it's fixed just like Aodyo did.
You can also seal the opening with some soft kneadable mass that does not dry out or with "liquid rubber seal", but there's nothing wrong with hot glue and you can also use it to fix cables and other things where there isn't much stress.
And no, it will not melt the plastic of your Sylphyo. The melting point is around 100 °C, normal working temperature around 150 °C.
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RE: Under the Blue Ring
Thanks, Laurent, for clarification.
Clint, I think you should remove the old hot glue, let the electronics dry for a while just to be safe, and then seal the opening flat but tight with new hot glue and put on the blue ring.
The reason for this: Air from the main tube does not normally get through this opening to the electronics while the mouthpiece with the O-ring is in place. No air can get through the electronics chamber either. Air can only penetrate through the inner gap between the housing and the blue ring. But if it does, it can then condense on the ring, on the wall of the small duct and on electronic components in the compartment.
If you're drying the Sylphyo with your fan without a mouthpiece, you may have aided the unwanted process, but you couldn't have known there was an opening where there shouldn't be. According to current knowledge, I would not do the drying with a fan from below without a mouthpiece, because the cooler blue metal ring promotes condensation. I think it is better to use a different, dry mouthpiece. Maybe a truncated one with a larger opening, but the plugged-in part with the O-ring should keep the upflowing air away from the cool metal ring.
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RE: Under the Blue Ring
On my Sylphyo this hole was completely sealed. I removed the adhesive out of curiosity and yes that is a duct that goes straight into the electronics case.
It could be a ventilation duct, which was finally closed after all. Or a prepared connection option to a dynamic mouthpiece that should be closed for now.
Aodyo?
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RE: Pairing Gets Lost
This is not a good development. And nobody seems to know if it's the Sylphyo or the Link :-(
Need a workaround? If you have to play a gig and need a larger range of action with a cable, use an active Lindy Extension Cable. One end to the computer or a powered USB hub, the other end connects to the Sylphyo cable.
I have a 5 meter Lindy Extension USB 2.0 with the red USB socket and it works with the Sylphyo. I'm pretty sure a longer one will do also. The cable is relatively heavy, but the lighter end (your standard cable) is at the Sylphyo's side. Of course you should tape the cable to the instrument and attach a loop to your body.
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RE: Blocking of Spammers
From the NodeBB community forum:
- "First, we have enabled the "Post Queue" feature so that our moderator must review the posts of new users. This allows us to catch the spam accounts and posts, but when these spam attacks come (usually in waves) it eats up a fair amount of the moderator's time – time when he should be helping our users."
It seems that the NodeBB Forum software has a moderation setting, but Aodyo doesn't use it. I suggested this a couple of times and even offered to do the manual "allow/disallow" job, which can be not much more than clicking a button for the first post of each new user. Since a while Aodyo deletes spam more often than it used to, but why they don't use the moderation setting is beyond me. Neither the amount of spam nor the amount of new users is an issue here. A few mouse clicks a day at most.
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RE: Sylphyo Link wireless with another hardware synth/midi controller ?
@Zelio said in Sylphyo Link wireless with another hardware synth/midi controller ?:
the Link : can it transmit the midi data from the midi in DIN through the midi out USB ?
Works here. I tested with a MIDI controller to Link MIDI DIN and I get the data from Link MIDI USB to the computer.
(In case you think about DIN only: MIDI Thru via the two DIN connectors does not work)
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RE: More Internal Sounds needed here!
Just loud thinking ...
what if the Sylphyo had no internal sounds at all? Less powerful CPU, two batteries, an USB cable, the wireless connection to the Link. Bidirectional of course, to save and load settings. Only the Link would have the synth.
No more double-synth control. Cheaper Sylphyo, cheaper Link (because more people would buy it), smaller program, less maintenance by the developer.
The Link/Synth could run on batteries (can it?) for street musicians. Stage performers have power supply anyway. Studio people would use just the radio MIDI and their own synths.
... as I said above, just loud thinking.
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(I am a little scared at the moment because of my bad experience with Eigenharp. This project with the best possible hardware died because of software troubles, updates, lost programmers etc. I don't want to see the Sylphyo on a similar path. Therefore I rather suggest to keep updates small and pragmatic and try to shrink and streamline the whole system, technically.) -
RE: Anyma Phi - controller recommendations?
@mbang
I think in the long run you want a serious keyboard with at least 49 semi-weighted keys and aftertouch and a few knobs and pads. Don't give priority to the DAW control, there are always problems with controller keyboards. Fine if it works, but if you're buying the device for synths, it should be able to handle those instruments really well, not just do something else and do everything halfway. I suggest saving money a little longer, maybe not buying other things (plugins for example) and taking your time to find a decent keyboard controller. A good one can also be a few years old. It doesn't stop working after a short time or fall apart, both of which are problems with today's cheap keyboards with hundreds of features.Regarding the Faderfox EC4: This is a well built and well programmed controller. The 16 encoders per page give you great control over your various synth or effects setups. Now it comes down to what you want from your synth. I call the EC4 a "rather static" controller. If you want to sit in front of the knob layout and push ambient or sequencer sounds around, the Faderfox EC4 is very good. But if you want to play expressively with real-time control of some parameters, the EC4 is the wrong device. Then I recommend an Expressive E Touché (the traditional, not the SE version). It then also has the CV outputs that you mentioned as advantageous.
To give you an idea of what I'm talking about:
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RE: More Internal Sounds needed here!
Well, they talked about a Sylphyo update and bug fixes and made the Anyma Phi. Then they talked about a Sylphyo update and bugfixes and started with Anyma Omega. I'm starting to realize that the company is stretched and the niche we're in with the Sylphyo is pretty narrow ...
What should we do?
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RE: Double note
@wwoodard8 said in Double note:
I'll try the velocity as 1. (BTW, why 1?
We would like to set 0 but this gets interpreted as note-off.
Velocity 1 is the least evil.@wwoodard8 said in Double note:
My assumption is that synths built especially for wind synths will just totally ignore velocity
Well, the synth needs the start of the note and that comes with velocity greater than zero. And it needs the end of the note. However, synths made for windcontrollers should not make sound with velocity 1 while most other synths do. Actually a dedicated wind synth should not sound without the "sound event" it is prepared for (i.e. CC2). But since we seldom know what a synth exactly does internally, we set the velocity as low as possible.
Working with CC2 should be the default setting for a dedicated wind synth, but this can usually be changed to another CC number or Channel Pressure, just to be usable with different input devices and settings.
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RE: Dangling Strands of Caulking
@Clint
Either leave this strand as it is or cut it off.
Do not pull it!What you see is some glue that connects a middle soft plastic tube to the two hard plastic tubes at the top and bottom of the Sylphyo. If you pull on your glue strand, you may produce a hole and that may disturb the air flow.
In addition to the screws, the Sylphyo is held together with hot glue in a few places. At my instrument, this glue lost it’s strength and I could safely disassemble the instrument without knowing details. See the photo below, in the places marked with arrows are the glue areas of the tube:
WARNING:
Do not disassemble the Sylphyo unless you have experience with such things. You could damage the board, a ribbon cable or connector or whatever.(Btw, my Sylphyo contains a standard rechargeable 18650 battery in a socket, additionally held in place with two cable ties. An electronics technician can replace the battery.)
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RE: Aodyo settings key at top of Sylphyo
@Paul-Flute
I don't expect them to put in a mechanical button, even if we would prefer that. But what you describe can be solved with software. For example, tap twice or hold your finger on it longer. They would have to discuss that with the players who are affected. I myself have never accidentally touched the button. -
RE: Music example: Sylphyo in a cave
@Paul-Flute said in Music example: Sylphyo in a cave:
@Peter-Ostry The link appears to not work?
Ah, maybe because of security restrictions. It’s HTTP, not HTTPS.
You can copy/paste the link to your browser.Or, if you prefer that, I’ve put it on SoundCloud:
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Music example: Sylphyo in a cave
An example of using the Sylphyo.
The piece linked below is part of a music project that aims to describe a journey through Hang Son Doong, the largest cave in the world. A Sylphyo is used in this part.
Initially you will hear the end of a "jungle path" leading to the cave entrance. Then we go down a water-bearing slope into the depths of the cave, while two embedded Sylphyos help support the rather scary situation. Then an underground river is crossed and in the following, quieter room, the Sylphyo becomes the main instrument. The music of this excerpt ends before we enter the next room of the cave.
I'm not the best flute player, but here the music thrives on the composition and mood, not on individual instrumental performances. In my opinion, the Sylphyo fits well into this environment and you can clearly hear how sensitive the breath controller is. That's why I love the Sylphyo.
Link to the .zip compressed WAV file:
Sylphyo In Hang Son Doong (Section)Have fun in the dark :-)
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RE: How to control Roland Aerophone?
@blipson
Just my 2 Cents:USB Host connectors did never work for me. Not the Kenton host box nor at a digital mixer I had and not the Sylphyo Link. I do not know why, maybe my personal Karma or the temperature in Austria. And I never found out if the problem was at the host or at the connected device.
The first USB host that works flawlessly here is the BomeBox. I have an active USB hub on the host port of a BomeBox with all my MIDI gear connected including a Sylphyo Link and no problems at all.
I am writing this because, if you don't find a failure, don't blame yourself or your gear. It may just be your Karma or the air pressure in your bicycle tires or the colour of the wine on your table. The function of USB hosts seem to be a mysterious secret.
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RE: General thoughts on top three thumb positions
@wwoodard8
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RE: Aodyo Community seems to be attacked!
@reidid789
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RE: Sylphyo to enter scores with the MuseScore application ?
@Jean-Louis
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RE: Sylphyo to enter scores with the MuseScore application ?
@Jean-Louis said in Sylphyo to enter scores with the MuseScore application ?:
Not knowing how to play the keyboard and not being a composer, but practicing the flute for a long time, I imagined to save time for the regular input of acapella scores for a choir
I suggest reconsidering that.
Originally a guitarist, I started recording MIDI guitar into scoring programs years ago because it was the instrument I was most familiar with. It turned out that was only a good idea if you want to record guitar tracks. In all other cases, where it is not a question of playing but only of the notes, a keyboard proved to be better suited. Especially in programs like MuseScore, which only allow note-by-note input. And especially for ensemble or choir where the intervals and harmonies are laid out in front of you on the keyboard. And with step-by-step input with the keyboard, you usually have one hand free to operate the program.
I don't want to dissuade you from trying the Sylphyo, but its basic construction doesn't make it easy to write music with, even if you're good with wind instruments. What you know best is not necessarily the best tool for everything. I know someone who is excellent at playing saxophone, flute and wind controller (Yamaha). But for scoring he doesn't use the wind controller, but either a "strictly" set TEC breath converter and a keyboard or just the keyboard alone, for the reasons mentioned above. This is more efficient and depending on the program it can be more precise.
I can imagine that because of your knowledge of the instrument and the similarity between voice and wind instrument, you would consider the Sylphyo a logical tool for scoring. But give it a try and if you have the opportunity try the same with any keyboard. For step input, possibly with a fixed velocity, the quality of the keyboard does not play a major role.
The situation is of course different when it comes to technique and performance. But you can't use MuseScore for that anyway.
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RE: Sylphyo to enter scores with the MuseScore application ?
I just tried it, did not work for whatever reason. I switched off all additional stuff in the Sylphyo, activated dynamic velocity, set the channel to 1. Sylphyo as input was selected in MuseScore and Midi Monitor (on Mac) showed incoming notes with various velocities. But MuseScore did not react. I can write notes with the Keyboard in Muse Score.
But why would you want to use a windcontroller to enter single notes in MuseScore? A keyboard is much better for that. You cannot record your performance anyway, just painting note after note. At least I don't know another way in MuseScore, maybe I am wrong.
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RE: Is there any way to know when the Base Key changes?
My Sylphyo does not send anything when switched on. Not a single event. Not via the link, nor directly via USB. The first messages I see are Elevation CCs when I take the instrument out of the vertical power on position.
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RE: Is there any way to know when the Base Key changes?
@Clint
I am afraid you won't have a chance until Aodyo gives us controlling possibilities like setting the base note by sending something to the Link and sync it to the instrument or vice versa or what-do-I-know ...Just loud thinking:
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Do not change the base note on the Sylphyo but rather at the destination. Near the MIDI input, in Cantabile, before the plugin, whatever is possible. It's only about adding a value to incoming note numbers.
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I don't know how you operate the EC4, but if pushing knobs doesn't interfer with other functions I would use the push functions of encoders 1-11. They have labels and pressing the corresponding knobs makes manual changes more or less failsave.
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If you can send SysEx from Cantabile or through another software, maybe Aodyo can give you a string to set the base note on the current Link. You wouldn't see the change on the Sylphyo but I think you could live with that.
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If you can program that in Cantabile or in another software, you could switch the base note on the Sylphyo, then do something on or with the Sylphyo you never do while playing (telling the software that the base note is coming) and then play the base note. Like a keyboard player handles key switches.
None of the above is an ideal solution, but maybe I could give you some ideas.
Just a note:
If you need MIDI processing but don't have a software for that, consider Bome MIDI Translator Pro. They have a very helpful support guy in the user forum. BomeBox could be an additional option but that little monster is expensive. -
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RE: Anyma Phi with Expressive E TouchéP
@mistergibson
I don't have an Anima Phi but a Touché.If you use hardware patches in Lie Software, under the MIDI tab you can set CC numbers sent by the available movements. Click on "Instrument View" shows you some settings including the MIDI channel.
According to the Anima Phi specifications, CC numbers cannot control everything in the Synth but controlling playing performance is possible.