Hi Clint
looks like s design fault on the motherboard, or a faulty component. A simple solution would be a powered USB hub.
I have the link with two other USB machine in a case. Hub inside the case, one cable to the computer.
And the link is also powered without a computer
Regards
Frank
Hi Bernard, the XpressO and the Roland as inprinciple the same age: they both use samples. The Vl70 uses mathematical models of the instruments, wwhich means they react the same as the akoustic instrument. Like on the real instrument, when you blow to hard is overblows, generates the same overtones, so sounds more realistic. The learning phase is also a bit more than compared to a sample instrument..
Though rather old, people still come to check wat synth i used for some sounds..
Kind regards
Frank
Hi Mothyb
what i have seen and heard from the Xpresso, it s rather expensive gor what it offers. What i see what you need as sounds, i would advice the Yamaha VL70 m. It has the most natural soundings sounds. For the most natural sounds i advice the Patchman rom. One can check his sounds at his site. I have played a rather convincing violin in a string quartet..
I am more into experimental sounds, so i have replaced the VL70 with an ASM Hydrasynth.
Kind regards
Frank
Hi
I flew alot with the early Yama windcontroller, which looks like a machine gun. When asked what it is , i did put it to my mouth and showed the fingering.
With the Sylphyo pack it with a earphone, and you can let them hear
Regards
Frank
Wow enormous work you put it, it will take time to see it is usefull . Right now i use EWI mode + pinky
will comment: but redoing my studio first.
Kind regards
Frank
I check the messages : had to smile when you mentioned 127 bits, i guess you meant 127 value.
In the NI conversation they talk about the curve, while i think that is not your problem : it is low values of breath.
My machines are not connected but i remember seeing a very high resolution for breath in the minimonitor of rig control , the host i use when using VST 's I will check if i can values from my hardware, life i want to lmit myself to hardware synth(s) only. My choice has been a Hydrasynth .
Hydrasynths uses NRPN for data transfer
regards
Frank
Hi Fanch
Aodyo has a nice tool , which gives visual feedback.
It is dpownloadable from the website and is called SylBench.
If gives visual feedback and show the settings. It makes sound as well, so you can setup the Syl and check all your settings.
I used it also to train myself. De ptchbend Pedra showed has to be done at the lowest finger..
I use link Gig P as a better alternative to mainstage...
Kind regards
Frank
Hi Metered section
when i look at the midi monitor of my host i see a high resolution data stream is send from Breath.
I would love it if midi data will be sent in high resolution NRPN 's The synth i intend to use with Sylpyo uses those : ASM Hydrasynth ,
will try to give extra data when mu studio is up and running
Kind regards
Frank
Interesting ! I think the clue about what it is, can be found in a midi monitor.
My first impression is that the the tone generator does not properly react on the low pressure.
I use the full rage : from very low to very high. Now to virtual instuments hosted by Gig performer: its midi monitor shows the gigantic range.
Nice sound: I am not trying to play "real" instruments. I combine it with a Vl70m with the Patchman rom. Found that i play most the Plate model..
I like your approach : sorru i cannot match your data : I am redoing the studio : so all is disconnected.
Kind regards
Frank
Same : My horn shows led colours, red blue green : It would not be a bad idea if the manual has a tabel describing the meaning. More than i assume
regards
Frank
I blocked the port with a piece of gaffa tape, than made a hole with a pencil, till i found i had the right adjustment.
I tried several valves from aquarium shops, found that those intrinsically have to much resistance.
With each adjustment one has to learn how to play with that: so i concluded that a valve is overkill. I used black gaffa tape.
Kind regards
Frank
I do not know the rules of the USA But i doubt if there are any restrictions between France, or the EU and US.
Good luck with the machine: i was very happy receiving mine! There are a lot of configurations possible, You play sax, and EWI : there is an Ewi mode.
Happy blowing !
regards
Frank
I love the link: complete freedom of movement. I made a small case, which has the link, Midi wiring to the VL70, and USB wiring to a synth.
Audio goes to a small ( halve size ) ad converter. So to connect to the outside world i have left right Audio, and power, For a three Synth setup ( Link, Vl70m, ASM Hydra desktop.
Quick setup and tear down.
Regards
Frank
Hi Serge, i think we are totally different players. Nothing is wrong with that. We share the age.
I am from a jazz background, an modern music. I am a big Coltrane fan, i am more into shaping the tone, lIke Archie Shepp's later years, Chat Baker maybe , slow Miles, Ella and Billy Holiday style.
I Married the WX windcontrollers with a Kurzweil K2000 to make my own tones or sounds. Later joined with a Physical modelling synth, the Yamaha VL70m. There one could make similar sounds ike the mistakes one makes on an acoustic instruments, like overblowing.
The WX controllerswere rather primitive: Breath, pitch in the good way, with the mouth , and a modulation wheel.
The WX es were rather breakable, so i added a EWI 4000. I found that a total desaster`: with bite you add a vibrato from a LFO ? Pitch was two half wheels with the right thumb?
I could not do the things i do with the internal sound. Midi was not wireless. And on stage it is warm, one sweats: when th controls touch a sweaty shirt, it is out of control. I sold the 4000 immediately.
When my last WX broke down, i got an EWI 5000 hoping that this was a cure: least i had a windcontroller.
When i found out about the Sylphyo, i immediately ordered one. I think i have one of the first white ones, La Neige. It looks like a toy, not a golden flute, more like a baby drinking bottle. And it plays like a toy: so much fun to play! I blocked the air exit with a piece of tape, so i have the right amount of backpressure and a need less air to make a tone.
First strikes is the enormous dynamic range : from pppp to FFFFF, easy and natural. One can really whisper, And raise natural. Tongueing is like a recorder. Simple.
Helas no pitch reed, But it has alternatives. Up and down movement changes the pitch: I add vibrato like a cellist on the string. A natural way and in control.
an other way is via the fingers: Sylpyo allows half hole fingering, like on a flute or recorder. this allows pitch bend up, and down.
Top of the right hand slider window is also set to pitch bend. I have assigned it to something else ( sometimes a puff of breath noise)
One of the great things about the Sylphyo is the extremely versatile configuration options. all controllers can be assigned as you wish. Which means also tht you have to know what you are doing, and it can mean that one has to learn from scratch how to play.
Same for the fingering: you could choose EVI (three valve something) I started on Sax, than i wondered why should i use the ugly fork grips? I changed to EWI + left pinky, which allows me to play easy chromatically. Back to the exercise board, scales scales. It workes but sometimes my mind switches to sax. And that is messy.
I am marrying the Sylphyo to a ASM Hydrasynth Destop + Vl70m when i play computerless, with computer i use the Respiro and [Surge](lihttps://surge-synthesizer.github.io/nk url)
Hope i gave you some idea
Frank
I intend to add the Photon in a later stage.
Hi I am a long time windplayer. Except for the Aerophone I owned and play the Yamaha wx series , The Ewi 4000 and 5000.
The Sylphyo is a big upgrade to all. Far more expressive, and a real musical instrument. since my upgrade i have never touched the others.
I have not played the Aerophone, but from the specifications, i conclude that it would be a step back.
I am considering the Photon, because i miss the pitch control via the lips: i come from the saxophone family of wind instruments.
The Sylpyo is truly wireless Audio and midi.
To be honest, i cannot imagine one plays the three of them, unless one depends on the internal sounds. The Sylphyo can do more than both the EWI and the Aerophone.
i use the Syl to control the hardware synth Hydrasynth Desktop, and software synths : Respiro from Imoxplus, The Surge , PA Thorn and some more.
Feel free to ask questions
Regards
Frank
I did the same : a opiece of gaffer tape and i asjustes o i have good controll from PPPPP tp FFFF . With nu resistance one has no control. I did not compare with an acoustic instrument ( Like sopraneo sax in my case, because the cane demands a diffrent approach . I did try a n aquirium are valve, but thatgave too much resistance even fully open.
kind regards
Frank
Hi Badblock
I have used similar placeholders : like email adres : write frank =writef , domain name stdio> My nephew copied the habit as well.
If you ant to get rid of badblocks management: switch to ZFS , it is a dream come true. Too bad the team was bought by Oracle, but they all ran away and ZFS is and stays open source.
What is your usage of the Sylphio? I am originally a sax player (Tenor Soprano, two completely different beasts. Needs separate training to play both well. I played load because that was necessary at the times, which meant playing at home was nearly impossible. I had spare time: so i bought a synth (Yamaha SY99) and because you cannot have expression with a keyboard added a windcontroller. Found a had a huge new range of sounds. So WXX and kurzweil were a team for many years.
Exchanged the Kurzwejl for laptop with virtual instruments. Setup times and the continious fight for low latency made me switch to this new wonder :The Hydrasynth. A true very versatile wonder in a compact case.
I changed the fingering on the Syl to non sax : left pinky half tone up, right pinky half tone down. Works very well on legato play, but needs exercise, sometimes my mind changes back to original sax, more scales i than think.
Good luck with you tube case, and happy blowing !
Frank
writef@pm.me
Hi Badblocks
Are you a Unix fan ? because of the name.
I did it the primitive way, took the Sylphio to the shop and tried where i fits in. If you just want to fit theInstrument 750 mm will do. If you want to add the Link box 800 mm. For the end stopper i used a pair of old socks ( after washing) and the linkbox i put in a sock as well. In PVC you have the screw on lids: and a thread you glue in. I made a cut out on the thread adapter so the carrying strap fits in.
If you make the tube a bit longer you can fit wiring and power adapters as well.
Good luck
Regards
Frank
I see you need a fsck badblocks :
I opted to the cheap and sturdy method: Just the Sylphyo goes into a piece of PVC tube, with two caps. A belt sold for holding suitcases close is the carrying strap. Over the shoulder. Two discs whit a hole to keep the instrument centered. The link and strap go on top. On the pic the carrying tube for the EWI5000, made abolete by the sylphio.
When i carry a module : My joy is the ASM Hydrasynth Desktop. Its 19" and i use a small flightcase for light mixers. It is 8 ubits high, the Sylphyo stacks nicely with a VL70m, under the Hydra. A Motu 8A is my remote mixer/ digital interface. I love quick response and setup. Never more than 3 cables to connect or disconnect : Power + left right, or power and ethernet AVB. Stereo or all channels individual.
Regards
Frank
Sorry not in French, one can answer me in French Dutch Kiswahili German
fsck is the unix command to clear badblocks on a disk
Except for the lowest and highest octave i never lift my thumb, always slide.
I have a history with windcontrollers, Yamaha and Akai Ewi , and sliding is always the good option. Ewi has rollers, making it a easier than the Yamaha. Sylphyo is best, except for the screw , but one gets quickly used to that.
Many times i have portamento on: not to cover glitches, but rather to get a nice pitch bend up to the actual note. Making up a bit for the missing mouth controlled pitch bend. The length of the slur depends on the previous note. One can create a longer slur by quickly tapping a (much) lower octave. It is a pity not all internal sounds have portamento enabled.
I did not check yet if one can switch portamento on via midi input: would be lovely.
Sure needs practise to learn how to slide fast , but thet is part of the game
regards
Frank
Thanks! I expected to see you live on stage! At least it was responsable for a melodic line ..
always nice to see what others do
Regards
Frank
Many times i see that the USB does not connect properly: a computer problem. Unplugging the USB and pluggin reconnects. My midi (din) connection to another device is always there.
I use two computers : windows 10 and Mac. Windows disconnects slightly more than Apple. And it is just not the Syllink, other usb midi devices show the same behaviour. Other devices like keyboard, HDU i never notice this.
Sorry i cannot offer a solution except use DIN Midi
Regards
Frank
Hi ghostdic
You can like Maxence said, and how is not very obvious in the manual
How can be found in the section getting started
https://www.aodyo.com/user-manual-page-en-21.html#section-getting-started.default-mappings
Look for the section quick settings : you will get at quick setting bij pressing the aodyo symbol at the front.
Now press and hold the highest key at the back, and now one can change the base key with the Increase and decrease keys ( D settings key)
Once you have tried, you will wonder why you have not seen it before, it is that simple
Regards
Frank
Merci Daniel pour la compliment!
I think it is better not to separate the forum into languages. Better put the question in ones native language, and maybe an effort to put it in any common language.
Thanks for translating : i updated my French a bit
Back to my Sylphyo + with Respiro
My favourite internal sound now is 26 : Breathed on Bach
I feel this forum we should use to share idea's about playing a wind instrument and which tone generators one uses. i see Sylphyo and Respiro : S and Tonegenerator X , Sylphyo and VL70 more interesting. No doubt there will be animo to help each other
Kind Regards
Frank
Dutch : Kiswahili abit of German a bit of French
Cher Bernard
je crois que la Sylphyo est a EVI , choisis EWI en pas de probleme.
je ne parle Francais plus. On peut repondre en Francais, je peut lire.
Frank
To me it looks like a broken connector: just try another USB cable:
Look into the usb connector: maybe one of the prongs is bent.
did you try the cable which shos it charges from the computer ?
Regards
Frank
Hi Daniel
with the update it went one position down From EWI to Evi
You used EWI like me: and Friedus alredy put it back to EWI
Typing mistake I guess
Regards
Frank
Hi Ben
can you describe hoe you try to update? so we can see if there is anything wrong in your procedure?
Kind regards
Frank
Hi Friedus
I do not have good information about the update, but the update is the software configuration, and charging is more hardware.
The charging is hardware only : and to me it looks like you have a USB cable problem. Bot the charger and the usb port uses an USB cable. I suggest you exchange the cable used .
Kind regards
Frank
The Sylphyo allows a very big range , and is very sensitive. Nothing like you would need on a trumpet.
and it has a data smoothing option as well.
But if you need you can make it hard: in software : and hardware, by closing the exit.
Kind regards
Frank
Hi Fridus
There is a small mistakes in the update: I reported before, but it did not came through.
The settings for which keyfingering has shifted down.
The way it looks like is that you have chosen EWI before and it is now EVI, hence the false key
In setup going to fingering and select EWI as you had before.
Or any other: the false fingering is because you are n EVI now.
Kind regards
Frank
Hi @yannick
first in English
The justin whistle is in tune. But i noticed that the sounds were slightly off before the latest version.
I noticed that the top two octaves look out of tune in Ircam labs Snail, because of the slight beating of the oscillators.
Kind regards
Frank
update works well !
With new sounds as a surprise!
Regards
Frank
PS i reported that with a mac installation the audio output works. This was not true, i patched the sylphyo wrongly and listend to the link instead.
@pedro1690
Hi Pedro
I get what you mean: never knew it was a bis key.
I replaced it with a A + F A Fis and A + left pinky B right tumb down key.
I regard the Sylphyo as a new instrument (group) which needs exercise (a lot) to get fluent. Not a quick sax alternative.
My musical background has its roots in jazz. But i am not a the more notes the better in a beat player. The shape of the tone is very important.
One of the tone generators i use is Respiro.
For fun we also play kind of EDM. Stems for the boring monotonous parts, with real players for the music. No rehearsals Play. Straight uninterrupted 1/2 hour sets. Dance till you die.
kind regards
Frank
I was very pleased to feel the initial response , just playing the first time: Impressive dynamic range with breath. And one can tune it to a playing style so much. When i started i used a single sound for weeks : Just a flute like thing: from pppp up.
Paramater tweaking helped me a lot by making a table : with comments of results. Later i will add sounds getting the CC right.
It is a joy and fun and serious work: but you can adapt unlike ...
Happy new year too !
Kind regards
Frank
Hi Troy
Looks like new feature, least to me. Original default is pitchbend. When you change the the value to control, 78 is generated.
I think it is a new option: one is now able to separate the key bends from "other" bends.
I have to to think how I will use it.
Thanks for wondering about it: now I know too.
The Sylphyo is getting more versatile.
By the way, I am not part of the team. Just a happy user like you
Kind regards
Frank
Hi Pedro
You got me confused: Bb bis key ?
What fingering have you chosen in setup ?
I have chosen EWI fingering with pinky raises half tone, gives me several options for raising the A to Bb : Left pinky from A , Right F and E from A
for a sax player thos come natural.
Kind regards
Frank
I noticed than update on a Windows 10 machine did want to go smoothly: Windows tried to automount the USB device and interfered with the update process.
I did not investigate further, just plugged in a Mac, and all went smoothly. I have no problems: audio from the headphone output of the Sylphio is fine.
Maybe it is the Windows update process ?
Kind regards
Frank
Hi Eric
First af all thanks for taking your time to elaborate and explain your point.
I see that in time we have a parallel development in the use of wind-controllers. But a different end result.
Started as a sax player, tenor and soprano -started lessons on both instruments at the same time, because i found soprano players never had the proper control over their instrument. Tenor players add a soprano at a much later moment, not realizing that they are totally different instruments.
I wanted more colour in my sound and i decided to add a synthesizer. The Kurzweil K2000R. It was delayed by more than a year, and i filled the gap with a Yamaha SY99. Quickly i found that it is impossible to make realistic wind instrument sounds with a keyboard. found that Yamaha just released a wind-controller the WX11 and had to convince the dealer to import one. The result was so much better, but limited. So the urge to get a better controller was always there.
I upgraded from the 11 to the 7 and to the 5 : every time an improvement, so i never looked back.
Akai came with the EWI 4000, got one , tried to master it, but found that the bite control cannot be a replacement for the reed control. Sold it and continued with the WX5. Experimented with extra sensors on the machine to control more sound aspects.
Than my wx5 broke down: and could not be repaired. Reluctantly with a bit of hope i acquired a WX5000. To my amazement it is only partially wireless. Exactly the most important, the controller information is NOT transmitted. The Internal sounds are not very bad but can not be drastically changed, so external tone generators are needed. The most important Pitch information is via thumb control. Not the mouth function. The vibrato is lfo controlled, switched on via bite ...
The keys are with touch control: no feedback, and disastrous, fail in humid environment. So please tell me, who does not sweat at an life concert?
Seach for a second hand WX5 or WX7. The ideal companion for those is the VL70m. found. Looking for a editor i found IMOX who also have an exiting instrument, the Respiro.
Because of the Respiro I became aware of the Sylphyo. Looking at the specs, it was like a dream come true. Missing was the reed pitch function: but that is under development.
Playing there is a lot more control than before, so a lot more to learn. But that is natural.
Basically where we differ is that i only play the wind-controller which has the best control and controllers. The most modern. I do not touch the less capable anymore (They are for sale).
You stay and play them all and want a common denominator. Not the best controller, but those who hare the same keys.
If i now look at the enhancements you propose:
The top left hand keys do not extend the range. above the highest octave is nothing
The G# key you propose is there: lh pinky. Not so kind to suggest that the keyboard is equivalent to an 18th century instrument. On the contrary it is a sharp on any note. On Ewi is looks like it will only supply a G# and C##
You suggest the Bis key gives me a ??
There a several solutions for f f# jump and also for c c# more than with the other wind controllers have.
Your statement
However, the Sylphyo fingerboard is REALLY holding its worldwide adoption back. That is the truth...but only until it (the Sylphyo) is updated, using very sensible, simple to implement, very expected changes that can easily differ from what I suggested, just like the AE-10 differs from the EWI and WX-7, but they are on "the same modern page".
I cannot agree with your truth: The Sylphyo is more modern than any of : half fingering is not offered on the controllers you mention.
True is more difficult to mix almost the same controllers: but why should one do that?
Kind regards
Frank
Hi Eric
I would not call it a Sylphyo Pro but a Sylphyo Sax
This opens the opportunity to create a Sylphyo Cla (albert or BoehM) or the Sylphyo Hobo as well?
Maybe see it like you as a sax player and you add a flute. One has to learn to play a new instrument. A second instrument is not as difficult as the first, but one has to practice.
The same count for adding the Sylphyo to your setup. One has to learn a new instrument. Luckily one can tune the key settings close to the sax. But one has to practise.
But that is also the matter when the keys are exactly the same. So many responses are different, that the only way one can master the instrument is : practise. Even if you choose a different sound, say a soprano sax, to a bass clarinet type, one can only master, get the proper sound by practising: feel the mass, how a vibrato feels, and sounds, how to breath, and more.
I am a sax player myself (tenor, soprano, bas) started on a recorder as a kid. Wx11 was my first wind, than wx5 and EWI 4000, 5000, I preferred the wx5, but the Yamaha's broke down. On each i had to relearn how to play sounds on the Vl70m.
The Sylpyo now is a dream compared to the previous ones, except the lacking pitch bend with the mouth piece : half fingering and clever legato helps a lot to compensate.
What do the additions you proposed bring?
The top lh keys do not bring extra notes, all midi notes can be played already (7 octaves): one octave up, and those keys would not allow half notes.
The additional LH key G# is already there, a key to lower a half tone under low C? Not really necessary since one can just go the octave below.
I actually find the pinky up or pinky down rather convinient since can be applied on any note. Still needs some more practise
I would not mind a slider like the bottom one for the octaves, gives some more perspective, but that is a different subject.
Kind regards
Frank
Hi Bernard
Usually I play mostly old music with recorders.
I think than you will feel at home with the Sylphyo and the Respiro !
I was a Sax player, but one of the first times i had a pleasant surprise. While exercising i somehow automatically found the half fingering. And that was from my recorder time: too long ago actually. It compensates a lot for the lack of pitch bend in de mouthpiece.
I use legato on: and when one makes an octave jump one gets nice bend towards the intended pitch.
I also had an EWI 5000, which was interesting, but with poor sound quality.
I had a 4000 too and the way it is setup vibrato on bite , made me sell it quickly. I Hoped the 5000 would have been better but no.
I am very happywith the lotsof controolers de Syl has
The Syplhyo suits me well, because I find the fingerings flutes I know, but there are only two or three internal sounds that suit me.
I would like to find real sounds of flutes, cromhorne, oboe for example.
I look forward to the software that will allow the Sylphyo to make or modify its sounds.
Yes it would be nice to have the editor: But i thought you did not like editing so musch ?
I saw that the ExpresO was going to be out of stock, and that the new boxes would arrive maybe in January 2020.
It not a bad machine at all i think, but the price, and one is stuck to the factory sounds.
I think a proper laptop gives more flexibility
I'm a little afraid of the complexity of Respiro, for two reasons:
1 - I do not really want to rebuild sounds as I would like, nor the time to do long research
Actually the real complexity is hidden. and each sound has up to 8 sliders, with with each sound explain what they do. Like more or less breath noise, more brass. And the comments are more for a musician than tech.
Here are examples of standard sounds sounds
It is played with a 4000 which is less suitable, less life controls than the Sylphyo. One can get far more expression on the sylpyo with respiro
2 - In addition to the SylPhyo, the Link, the mixer, the amplifier, you also need a computer. Here are a lot of materials to connect.
On the other hand the price of Respiro is lower .... So I hesitate ....
actually with a laptop there are one cable more. One from the laptop into the Link ( Not using a mixer) and one usb cable from the link into the computer: For midi and charging. I can make drawings for you if you want.
The laptop has the advantage one can add effects also ...
I am not in favour of working with an Ipad. Processing power is limited, Limited software instruments are available and expensive.
And sometimes, I have to play in places without electricity: old castles for example. I must be light and autonomous. When I play alone, without a computer, I feed the Link, with a USB phone battery, connected to the sound of the show, it works.
Replace the phone battery for a respiro laptop...
I like to play music.
Me too! when i go extra light i take the Syphyo and a cable ( Mini jack to jack) plug in the headphone output, Jacks in the mixer or amp available. Not wireless but ultralight.
Wireless I add the link, two jacks in the mixboard
With more and better sounds, I add the laptop. With Respiro. Mini jack to minijack and connect the audio laptop into the link , and usb cable from link to laptop.
Still only 4 cables easy setup !! (Two jack jack from link into mixer or amp, one mini jack stereo into link , one usb into laptop)
I am not going to explain me my concert setup
The only one who does not like when I play at home are the cat of the house, and my wife ....
I have a parrot inherited from my mother, she flies around. freely. She sings along with the music she likes. Firstly the Sylpho was seen as an intruder. Now they are friends, sing along, and when she goes to sleep she greets the sylphyo.
dinner time
Kind regards
Frank
Hi Bernard
I wish i could increase the intelligence of people. Icannot.
Maybe you gained some knowledge, or the knowledge you had was sorted just a bit.
What type of music you play? What instrument do you want to want to play with the Sylphyo?
I have been a windcontroller user for a long time. Started with the Yamaha WX11, Through the wx5 better. After they brokedown, i shifted to EWI 4000, 5000.
I found that the tonecontrollers with the most realistic sounds, like sample players were the least satisfying. The VL70m was better, but not the beautiful presets, but those sounds i edit myself, those which had the same mistake as when you play on a mechanical instrument. The mistakes in pitch per register, the way the sound changes when you blow to loud.
The preset sounds always lacked the character of a real player. And than i talk about the top of the bill VL70m with the patchman rom.
I admire the possibilities of the Xpresso, but i have the idea that it will have the same limits as the VL. Very good sounds, almost. But instruments which will not come alive.
The combination Sylphyo / Respiro i find more inspiring. A lot of more work, but the possibilities of getting past the almost level.
For once you have to learn how to create an instrument, and more how to play. While play you note what you miss in an instrument, and so you enhance the model..
If you are interested in the Respiro : In December the price will increase.
Kind regards
Frank
Hi Bernard
Getting there ! But not all connections , and your instruments are there the Xpresso is missing
I am not good at graphics ( Lazy ? )
so i make it in a table
The Sylphyo sends midi information to the link wirelessly. so the arrow should have a different colour. Yellow?
The link does several things:
1/ It receives the wireless midi and changes it to wired midi: which appears at the Din, round connector out.
2/ It sends the received midi information to the USB midi out
3/ It is a tone-generator: the midi received is transferred to audio signal, which we connect (green) to the mixer
Now if we want to use the Xpresso, we connect the round midi (yellow)out of the Link to the midi in of the Xpresso. And the audio out jacks of the Xpresso
If we want to use the Respiro, which is software and needs a computer. We connect the USB midi out of the link, to the computer. And the Audio out of the computer to the mixer.
If you make a drawing like you did, and give them the right colour, you can see which cables you need, and how many.
Actually the manual is very informative as well
see : https://www.aodyo.com/user-manual-page-21.html
and in French https://www.aodyo.com/manuel-d-utilisation-page-fr-21.html
wow I am updating my French: La table de mixage! La partie sono: la partie midi
I had French at secondairy school, even had to read Literature Ilke Jean Paul, Simone et le petit Prince. But i never had a French only speaking girlfriend , so it is dormant , in the back of my head.
I hope this helps, let me know if i am unclear, or if it is not enough
Kind regards
Frank
Bernard
Hmm when i drink too much coffee i do not sleep, so the Xpresso must be a coffee machine!!
I hope my story was of use. Feel free to ask questions.
It takes time and exercise to learn how to play also a virtual instrument. One has to learn how to feel the weight, the mass of the tone. It needs to adapt the settings of the controllers, according your playing style, and the amount of control the tone generator receives.
The Sylphyo has a beautiful set of controllers, more than other wind controllers. will take time to map them properly to the Xpresso .
actually there are three devices which have to learn how to cooperate : Sylphyo, Xpresso, and you.
My advice is to start using a single instrument of a certain class: like a tenor sax. Learn how to play that instrument: and set the parameters to your thinking and playing style. Play, adapt and exercise till you are totally satisfied. Only than try a different sound.
On the Sylphyo i have started with just one internal sound. a flute like sound. or recorder. I use that to find the best fingering method. I am originally a sax player, and not all sax keys are there. I have chosen to use left pink half note up, right pink half note down. That needs relearning, sometimes that is easy, chromatic scales are wonderful, if you remember to forget old habits.
The half note fingering is great. I learned to play the recorder when i was six so glides to notes came natural.
I have chosen not to use a sample based tone generator, i do not want to play an instrument which is already there.
Next to the internal sounds i have the excellent Respiro from Inmox. The program is easy to use, and has excellent sounds. But adaptation to playing is more extensive, because the possibilities are enormous. And that is fun.
Lets share experiences here !
Regards
Frank
PS do not blame the espresso machine to be monotonous, and do not look for a midi in an audio out..
Hi Bernard
Looks OK, but i do not know the XpressO. Is an audio coffee machine ? ;)
Let me explain a bit about Midi.
Midi is short for Musical Instrument Digital Interface.
Basic midi needs two components
1/ A device which generates digital midi notes, called a midi controller, after actions from a musician: like keypresses on a midi keyboard. The signal appears at the Midi out port.
2/ A tone generator, a device which converts a midi note into an electrical signal, which appears at the audio out connectors, which one connects to what you call an Ampli. De midi out of the controller is connected to the midi in of the tone generator.
Often the controller and the tone generator are packed in one case, and called a synthesizer.
Originally midi signal is transported or connected with a midi cable only, with a round so called din connector at each. Later midi signals are also transported via USB cable.
The Sylphyo is a special version of a Midi controller, mimicking a wind instrument. Your action on the windcontroller will generate midi notes.
These midi notes are sent to :
the usb midi output on the sylphyo
To the tonegenerator inside the sylphyo: audio output from the minijack on the Sylphyo, for headphone or ampli. Non wireless operation.
wirelessly to the linkdevice:
In the Linkdevice the midi is sent to the traditional midi out port, which you can connect to the XpressO or any other tone generator.
I hope this helps, just ask for more if you need
regards
Frank
Hi JD
Looks like i was/am misinformed. I did not realise that de Panda midibeam is an intergral part of the Sylphyo.
I apologise if you were mislead by me...
Kind regards
Frank
Hi Niki
Indeed Sylphyo Bench, a cute and handy tool, is not found on pages on the site. But the manual has a proper reference op page 21 : https://www.aodyo.com/user-manual-page-21.html, with a proper explanation how to use it.
It really helped me seeing the results of setting up the Sylphyo.
How do you plan to use the Sylphyo?
We should share our experiences here !
Kind regards
Frank
PS nice sites your company make!