I had somehow the same idea of sending MIDI CC from Sylphyo buttons.

I am playing the Trombone from samplemodeling. This virtual instruments allows changing of different kinds of mutes via a specific CC. Different values would activate different mutes.

This is the solution I found:
I am hosting samplemodeling's SWAM engine with the trombone inside Cantabile Software. Cantabile allows me to implement MIDI filters which would transfer certain notes into MIDI CC with specific parameters. So I configured the lowest notes to generate those MIDI CC and am now able to change mutes simply by playing one of the lowest notes.

This works well with one disadvantage: If you use the transpose function of Sylphyo, the controlling notes are also transposed. So, I ended up with configuring two sets of instruments inside Cantabile: one set with C tuning and one set with Bb tuning. This concept now works fine for me.

I am a hobby musician and am using Sylphyo for live performance. I wanted a light weight mobile solution. That's the reason, why I wanted to run the virtual instruments on a tablet. In the end it turned out that this is possible with today's technology and working quite well :-)

For those interested, here is experience report.

1. Choosing a tablet computer
   I felt quite unsure, which tablet would be powerful enough for running the virtual instruments, so I chose a high end Windows tablet and ended up with HP Elite X2. It is terribly expensive, but fortunately, there are refurbished devices on the market for half of the new price. (FYI: my alternative solution would have been Windows Surface pro, which is also quite expensive)
   With this tablet, it is no problem to run two virtual instruments in parallel. The buffer size of the ASIO driver is 256 samples. The CPU load is always below 30%. It works well even in battery mode.

2. MIDI fine tuning
   I bought two different instruments from Sample Modeling: The Flutes and The Trombone 3.
   One of them is coming with Sample Modelings own SWAM engine, the other with Kontakt Player.
   The swam engine needs a host programme for running, the Kontakt player can run as standalone application.
   I ended up with hosting both inside a vst host programme and I am now quite happy with that.
   This allows for a fine tuning of the MIDI controls in order to ensure optimum playability. This is, what I did so far:

• I tried to control the Vibrato of The Trombone with the roll control of Sylphyo and CC1. This was disappointing at first, vibrato behaviour was very abrupt and the vibrato was much to deep and not usable in this way. I then implemented a simple MIDI filter for mapping the CC1 values coming from the Sylphyo (0 - 127) to the limited range of 0 - 50 for the trombone. Now, the vibrato is exactly behaving as I want it.

• I tried to control the portamento time for The Trombone with the Slider function of Sylphyo. Basically, this is working will without any tweaking. However, I find it quite difficult to use the whole Slide range on the Sylphyo (i.e. to move the thumb down the slider all the way while playing). So, I implemented a MIDI filter, which is mapping the values coming from the Slider CC via a CC curve in a way, that 80 coming from the Sylphyo is already leading to the maximum input value 127 for the virtual instrument. Now it is easy to use high portamento times on the trombone during playing.

• The Sample Modeling instruments are strictly limited to the key range of the real physical instruments. While I understand that, for me as hobby musician it is somehow annoying because every now and then, it happens that I play an out of range note and then nothing comes out of the instruments. So I ended up with combining different instruments and assigning a specific key range to each of them in order to extend the overall playable key range. For example, I chose a C Flute as main instrument and extended it with the Piccolo Flute on the higher end and the bass flute at the lower end. I did the same with tenor trombone and bass trombone. Now, every instrument is configured in that way, that the specific main instrument (be it Piccolo, C Flute or Bass flute) is playable over its full key range and then the range is extended by appropriate supporting instruments which I tweaked in a way that they are matching well to the main instrument.

3. Choosing an appropriate VST host programme
   I didn't make a market survey and in fact have no real overview over available host programmes. I just start to use one of them and am quite satisfied so far and that's what I can report about.
   I started to use the free Cantabile lite.
   When I found out that I need to implement MIDI filters etc., I changed to Canabile solo, which is quite affordable.
   Cantabile solo supports all the MIDI filtering and combining of instruments as I described above and I started to like it.
   Recently, a new (still experimental) build was released, which finally provides something I was thinking about right from the beginning on as a tablet user: Now, I can prepare different sets and assign them to a grid of big buttons on the tablet. During live performance, it is easy to just push one of the buttons on the tablet in order to activate one of these predefined sets. That's something, I really like.

If anybody here has been going through similar experiences, maybe you want to share them as well.

Btw: I am still looking for a nice synthesizer VST which is responding well to the Sylphyo. Any hints?

After reading your approach for the planned internal synth, I am sure, you are exactly on the right track.
I was quite disappointed, when I changed from EWI 4000S to EWI 5000, which promised natural sounds. I then bought a Roland XV 2020, which offers already a better quality, but in the end, I only used artificial sounds on the Roland, which sounded excellent and also responded very well.

I am looking forward to testing the new, internal sound module!

Brand new anyma phi for sale

• unused, never switched on
• including the original invoice

I bought it early because I was so fascinated from the concept (actually, I still am), but don't find the time to use it. Since I ended up not switching it on since I received it in June, I am selling it now to someone, who as more time than me :-)

If you are interested, you can contact me via this forum or you can call me or whatsapp me: +43 676 60 4545 3. You can find my data also on the invoice in the picture.

Christian Flachberger

Fixed price: € 350,- including shipping costs!

Please not: It was sold and is not available any more.

I am selling a used Aodyo Sylphyo. About one year old, bought at 2017-01-02. All accessories and the bag are included. I will provide a copy of the original invoice from woodbrass.

If you are interested, please contact me via email: christian.flachberger(at) gmx.net or via telephone / SMS +43 664 60850 2942

Qu: Have you ever thought about providing the sounds you are developing for the new internal card also as vst?
I'd appreciate that a lot!
I guess, I will buy the internal card (e.g. to take the Sylphyo with me when I am travelling). However, in the meantime, I purchased some quite expensive virtual instruments from Samplemodeling and put everything into a vst host. So, I'd appreciate being able to integrate the new sounds also in this system.

I had somehow the same idea of sending MIDI CC from Sylphyo buttons.

I am playing the Trombone from samplemodeling. This virtual instruments allows changing of different kinds of mutes via a specific CC. Different values would activate different mutes.

This is the solution I found:
I am hosting samplemodeling's SWAM engine with the trombone inside Cantabile Software. Cantabile allows me to implement MIDI filters which would transfer certain notes into MIDI CC with specific parameters. So I configured the lowest notes to generate those MIDI CC and am now able to change mutes simply by playing one of the lowest notes.

This works well with one disadvantage: If you use the transpose function of Sylphyo, the controlling notes are also transposed. So, I ended up with configuring two sets of instruments inside Cantabile: one set with C tuning and one set with Bb tuning. This concept now works fine for me.

I am a hobby musician and am using Sylphyo for live performance. I wanted a light weight mobile solution. That's the reason, why I wanted to run the virtual instruments on a tablet. In the end it turned out that this is possible with today's technology and working quite well :-)

For those interested, here is experience report.

1. Choosing a tablet computer
   I felt quite unsure, which tablet would be powerful enough for running the virtual instruments, so I chose a high end Windows tablet and ended up with HP Elite X2. It is terribly expensive, but fortunately, there are refurbished devices on the market for half of the new price. (FYI: my alternative solution would have been Windows Surface pro, which is also quite expensive)
   With this tablet, it is no problem to run two virtual instruments in parallel. The buffer size of the ASIO driver is 256 samples. The CPU load is always below 30%. It works well even in battery mode.

2. MIDI fine tuning
   I bought two different instruments from Sample Modeling: The Flutes and The Trombone 3.
   One of them is coming with Sample Modelings own SWAM engine, the other with Kontakt Player.
   The swam engine needs a host programme for running, the Kontakt player can run as standalone application.
   I ended up with hosting both inside a vst host programme and I am now quite happy with that.
   This allows for a fine tuning of the MIDI controls in order to ensure optimum playability. This is, what I did so far:

• I tried to control the Vibrato of The Trombone with the roll control of Sylphyo and CC1. This was disappointing at first, vibrato behaviour was very abrupt and the vibrato was much to deep and not usable in this way. I then implemented a simple MIDI filter for mapping the CC1 values coming from the Sylphyo (0 - 127) to the limited range of 0 - 50 for the trombone. Now, the vibrato is exactly behaving as I want it.

• I tried to control the portamento time for The Trombone with the Slider function of Sylphyo. Basically, this is working will without any tweaking. However, I find it quite difficult to use the whole Slide range on the Sylphyo (i.e. to move the thumb down the slider all the way while playing). So, I implemented a MIDI filter, which is mapping the values coming from the Slider CC via a CC curve in a way, that 80 coming from the Sylphyo is already leading to the maximum input value 127 for the virtual instrument. Now it is easy to use high portamento times on the trombone during playing.

• The Sample Modeling instruments are strictly limited to the key range of the real physical instruments. While I understand that, for me as hobby musician it is somehow annoying because every now and then, it happens that I play an out of range note and then nothing comes out of the instruments. So I ended up with combining different instruments and assigning a specific key range to each of them in order to extend the overall playable key range. For example, I chose a C Flute as main instrument and extended it with the Piccolo Flute on the higher end and the bass flute at the lower end. I did the same with tenor trombone and bass trombone. Now, every instrument is configured in that way, that the specific main instrument (be it Piccolo, C Flute or Bass flute) is playable over its full key range and then the range is extended by appropriate supporting instruments which I tweaked in a way that they are matching well to the main instrument.

3. Choosing an appropriate VST host programme
   I didn't make a market survey and in fact have no real overview over available host programmes. I just start to use one of them and am quite satisfied so far and that's what I can report about.
   I started to use the free Cantabile lite.
   When I found out that I need to implement MIDI filters etc., I changed to Canabile solo, which is quite affordable.
   Cantabile solo supports all the MIDI filtering and combining of instruments as I described above and I started to like it.
   Recently, a new (still experimental) build was released, which finally provides something I was thinking about right from the beginning on as a tablet user: Now, I can prepare different sets and assign them to a grid of big buttons on the tablet. During live performance, it is easy to just push one of the buttons on the tablet in order to activate one of these predefined sets. That's something, I really like.

If anybody here has been going through similar experiences, maybe you want to share them as well.

Btw: I am still looking for a nice synthesizer VST which is responding well to the Sylphyo. Any hints?

After reading your approach for the planned internal synth, I am sure, you are exactly on the right track.
I was quite disappointed, when I changed from EWI 4000S to EWI 5000, which promised natural sounds. I then bought a Roland XV 2020, which offers already a better quality, but in the end, I only used artificial sounds on the Roland, which sounded excellent and also responded very well.

I am looking forward to testing the new, internal sound module!

Just a brief success report:
I started to use Cantabile Solo and am now hosting the Kontakt player with the Trombone inside Cantabile. That offers all kind of possibilities to filter and fine-tune MIDI CCs. Now, I also have a Vibrato on the Trombone, which can be controlled from the Sylphyo :-)

After fighting for weeks with my Roland XV-2020, I decided to change to a different sound module and started to use Samplemodeling Trombone. I like it a lot :-)

But here ist my question:
I'd like to use Roll control for the vibrato. For me, it is difficult to control it, since the range (or depth) of the vibrato of the virtual instrument goes up to a quite high (for myself much to high) amount. It would be much easier, if one could limit the maximum value either on the instrument itself or on the Sylphyo settings.

Since I am new to the Kontakt Player and to Samplemodeling instruments, there may be a way to adjust that (?)

If not - could it make sense to allow a limitation on the Sylpyho itself in some of the future versions?
Also a possibility to choose absolute control mode instead of relative control mode would be great.

Some wishes for the future...

cheers, Christian

Thank you for the explanation :smile:
I understand your idea.
Maybe, it is sufficient to explain that in the next version of the user Manual (it took me some time wondering, why roll control sometimes seems to work, sometimes not... ). I will now try to adopt to the relative control.